"Actual engineers" don't really care about software engineering, much less a strong emotion at all like the "deepest contempt" and many of them already vibe code today for their work anyway.

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leansensei 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh no, we do, because the software world has been abusing what engineering means for decades, in order to inflate job titles. Most people are programmers, not software engineers, and that's OK.

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daishi55 4 hours ago | parent [-]

What we do is absolutely engineering, there’s just a lot less credentialing upfront and rigor before something is released, because usually people’s lives do not depend on it and it’s easy to release updates.

But it is indeed engineering, and that’s OK.

	▲	zaphirplane 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Why is it engineering what makes it engineering