Islamist terrorist attack in Berlin Pride event

bfffatjb 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wow, HN is on one with this post.

First off, the headline is being heavily editorialized here, rather than using the headline from the article: "Germany classifies Berlin Pride ramming as 'terror attack'"

Then there are immediate accusations in the thread that this is the fault of a very broad group of people.

But equally wild is a comment opening on a tragedy with "lol". I cannot fathom what's funny here, even tragically.

Then there's someone claiming it's a false flag, when the individual suspected was previously arrested and ordered to undergo deradicalization.

Maybe we can all chill a bit, let some facts come to light and in the mean time focus on recognizing and supporting the victims?

Y'all aren't out here expressing any thoughts like, "it's fucking tough as hell for the queer community right now, and this isn't helping" or "my heart goes out to everyone who was hurt, lost someone, or witnessed that"?

No? Immediately to pointing fingers at someone?

Do better.

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sajithdilshan 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> First off, the headline is being heavily editorialized here, rather than using the headline from the article: "Germany classifies Berlin Pride ramming as 'terror attack'"

Title is not edited. The German interior minister has announced it as an Islamist terror attack. https://x.com/dw_politics/status/2081381153773097041

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bfffatjb 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Germany classifies Berlin Pride ramming as 'terror attack'

That's the title of the linked article. Stop trying to gaslight folks.

From the site guidelines: "Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize."

If you want the title to be a tweet, link to the tweet. But you've linked to an article, it should use the articles title.

	▲	sajithdilshan 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Nope, it's a live page. DW keeps on changing the title. Also how is it Gaslighting? the fact remains the same.

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indiangenz 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You do better. People like you exactly the reason why grooming gangs ran rampage in UK committing the most heinous crimes after world war 2. People like you are the reason why Sweden topped crime statistics after taking in "certain" type of immigrants. People like you are the reason for 10x increase in rape cases in Germany. Thankfully countries like China aren't blinded by your ideology and know how to "fix" issues through re-education. Ask yourself why AfD is gaining is Germany.

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GenerocUsername 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You do better and stop deflecting direct attributable harm as something to hide and cover up to prevent indirect harm.

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bfffatjb 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe we should think of the victims and give it a couple days before deciding what the root cause is isn't deflecting anything. It's common sense, it's de escalating the instinctive desire to lash out at others when hurt. It's part of being an well regulated adult.

	▲	sajithdilshan 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		de-escalation doesn't change the facts. It was announced as an islamist terrorist attack as of now and it would still be an islamist terrorist attack even after 10 days.

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thomasjeff1 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

How would otherwise you would raise billions of dollars to send to Israel to target and kill Muslims?

Also HN has become and may be run by a right wing white supremacists now. I dare them to post pictures of people running the platform.

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vcryan 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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	▲	GenerocUsername 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Lack of incentive? How about their religion commands it? And that's why it is specifically categorized as Islamic terror rather than generic terror.

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khaledh 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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ImJamal 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are plenty of Islamic terrorist attacks not referred to as terrorism by the media.

The 2009 Fort Hood attack and the 2015 Chattanooga shooting are good examples.

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indiangenz 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It hardly ever the other way around. Its no secret that Islamists are responsible for most of the terror attacks in Germany and Europe, and here you are justifying terrorists. There is a reason why China does what it does ;-)

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khaledh 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That's factually false.

US CSIS data says attacks by non-Islamists account for 85% of total attacks, while attacks by Islamists is just 15%.

In Europe, Europol TE-SAT data says it's 59% by non-Islamists vs. 41% by Islamists.

Also, I'm not justifying this attack. I'm pointing out the double-standards.

	▲	indiangenz 13 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		So much lies. You guys never for once accept responsibility. This is exactly why China went with re-education. And 41 % according to your claimed figures (which is incorrect) with < 10% of population? Thats actually arguing against your own claims.
	▲	GenerocUsername 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Now do per capita and see that their rate of terror is 10x what it should be. (And that's before readjusting for the undercategorized events being purposefully NOT counted for cultural sympethies)
	▲	throwawaypath an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		>US CSIS data says attacks by non-Islamists account for 85% of total attacks, while attacks by Islamists is just 15%. "What is per capita?"
	▲	x3ro 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		There is an additional aspect to these statistics. Eg a guy set fire to a house last year in Germany, killing four people of turkish descent. They found plenty of nazi paraphernalia in his house, but it was concluded that there was no “right-wing extremist motivation”. So there is a big question of skewed statistics underpinning all of these discussions.

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thomasjeff1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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