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Selfie for sign-in: a new, easy way to access your Google Account(blog.google)
54 points by lkurtz 3 hours ago | 46 comments
xnx an hour ago | parent | next [-]

If there were a Doomsday Clock for how close we are to "please drink verification can" (https://files.catbox.moe/eqg0b2.png), scientists would now move it to 3 minutes to midnight.

bombcar 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

We're zero minutes away from "some scammer said they were google and I had to show them my butthole to login".

brightbeige 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Scammer?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49028284

trollbridge an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

  Your Google Account holds a lot of valuable information, from cherished photos to important emails and documents.
Stuff like this is why I and many other people are going out of our way to make this no longer the case.
zzyzxd 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's funny because different people would interpret this sentence differently.

If you have high level understanding of the tech behind it, this feels like a threat. But if you don't, this sounds like an honest message from someone who genuinely wants to protect you.

A regular user log into Google account and see their photos today. Tomorrow they log in and see the photos again. And they would assume this system will always work like this.

dingaling an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Be a shame if you couldn't access them any more...

Verify identity to continue"

tintor an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Moved all of my cherished photos out of my Google Account.

Cider9986 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>If you've violated a Google policy, we may save your selfie video for a longer period of time to enforce our policies.

pzxc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://nevergivethemyourface.com/

notaigenerated 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

this should be the top comment

pudgywalsh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm waiting for the new killer feature where "Sign In With Google" popup overlay dialogs go away forever and never come back.

netsharc an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Fucking hell, they modified Chrome/ium to pop up an application dialog (it's not just somr HTML inside the web page) to "log-in using Google".. fuck Google!

Maybe next they'll get Chrome to automatically turn on your webcam, capture your face and say "Thanks for logging in!"

ThePowerOfFuet an hour ago | parent [-]

So don't use Chrome/Chromium. The web is so much better with uBlock Origin anyway!!

netsharc 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

I use Vivaldi, sadly it's based on Chromium and has quite a bit of the stinky parts...

(Currently on an old Vivaldi version that still allows manifest v2.. I guess I'm asking to be pwned)

ButlerianJihad an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Guess what, there are browser settings for that!

ThePowerOfFuet an hour ago | parent [-]

Not in Firefox there isn't. It's part of the website.

iosjunkie an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would love to know how they are going to handle deepfakes.

Also, doesn't this give law enforcement an easier avenue to compel access to someone's accounts?

EmbarrassedHelp 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Also, doesn't this give law enforcement an easier avenue to compel access to someone's accounts?

It does.

tiffanyh 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is this basically “Video KYC” as required in some countries to open a bank account?

muppetman an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google already have 5,000 odd photos of me anyway in Google photos. I'm screwed either way.

wegwerf17377382 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That attitude is exactly what got you into that mess.

There's no reason to believe the mess couldn't get any deeper, so backing out now doesn't have to be useless.

canada_dry 14 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Plus friends and family inadvertently give Google/Facebook (etc) your personal info via tagged photos, contacts, DMs without your consent and they gather/link/sell this collateral info to the highest bidder without anyone being the wiser.

srameshc 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sounds like a bad idea on so many layers. I don't want to give more selfies for training, feels like a disaster about to happen

andunie 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The fact that most people will love this is depressing.

m463 an hour ago | parent [-]

I wonder. I know a lot of people who hate this kind of thing, but because they don't want to be "tinfoil hat oddballs" they just keep quiet.

I think it would be nice to applaud or support people who think this way.

Instead of ridiculing these folks, or using semi-apologist "you're not the target market" type comments, it would be nice to say "good for you" or support them in some other way.

LorenDB an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Certainly this will never go wrong in any possible way.

arm32 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Respectfully, John and Claire, what do they have you guys doing? Please blink twice in your selfies if you're okay.

thisislife2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's Google in a nutshell - "the more personal data you give us, the more access you can have to Google services".

schaefer 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If only they wouldn't be evil... ugh.

nicce 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I thought it is already April Fools for a while...

fhn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Next on Google's list, blood draw for sign-in.

cousinbryce 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I’d be willing to provide a stool sample

charcircuit 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This already exists and is called FaceID and doesn't have the same privacy risks since the face check is done locally to allow the user to use the passkey to authenticate.

>Your selfie video is encrypted at rest

All data nowadays is encrypted at rest. That doesn't really matter since someone stealing a hard drive from Google with your information on it will never happen. The more likely risk is Google decrypts it and then sends it somewhere it shouldn't go and potentially trained into some AI system.

gitowiec an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I happily will provide my selfie with one brown eye and round pale face

praet 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

April fools?

fhn 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Not for google. They'll want your family member photos next

FireInsight 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They already have them, on Google Photos.

superkuh an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Meanwhile google has been locking out and closing the gmail accounts of people, myself included, that signed up before a phone number was required. If you don't log into your account for ~a year or so they will lock it and demand you log in. Which you can do, and you can even input the 2FA code, but it still won't let you log in because it says "there's not enough information to prove this is your account" despite having all the information ever associated with it. The only way to prevent deletion is to add a completely new, never before there phone number. I couldn't do that so they deleted mine saying I never logged in despite logging in literally dozens of times.

pessimizer 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

> The only way to prevent deletion is to add a completely new, never before there phone number.

Just happened to me. They "confirmed" it was me by getting a phone number they'd never seen before, that didn't belong to the false name on the account, and that I'd refused to give them for like 20 years. If anything, the fact that I eventually agreed to give them a phone number under duress was evidence that it wasn't me.

> despite logging in literally dozens of times.

Despite logging in literally thousands of times. I went in and deleted almost everything. Email now considered harmful. I'll feel better once they're locking me out of an empty account.

The problem is that everything in life requires a persistent email address, and hates email addresses that aren't on a whitelisted domain. The choice is between having some major provider, or not being able to pay your taxes online or log into your health insurance website. The fence is closing.

ProfessorLayton an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This seems like a terrible idea because deepfakes are getting better and better, even with them mentioning them and handwaving concerns away.

guessmyname an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]
ikiris 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow this is a terrible idea. I used to really respect the security and identity team what happened?

moritzwarhier 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This sounds... totally normal.

Emphasis on "totally".

But I guess Google coming out with a cloud-based FaceID clone was just a matter of time...

apart from using just a vastly larger amount of 2D photos and more precise PI techniques, instead of that stupid local-only, small-AI-based, 3D-scanning technique that falls back to passwords...

eh, I prefer Apple as my good cop ever since I can afford Apple devices

Cider9986 an hour ago | parent [-]

Face ID is private on device. This is stored by Google and they will keep it longer if you "violate their policies".

kotaKat 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm surprised how fast this came from the whole "give us your hand" bullshit with reCaptcha not being that long ago.

https://docs.cloud.google.com/recaptcha/docs/hand-gesture-ve...

"Google analyzes one or more videos of a user's hand as they perform various actions or gestures. The video is processed to extract hand landmark data, which includes 21 hand-knuckle coordinates."

Qision 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Next step is to require the full transcript of your genome!

/s