No, product managers do not get to claim they made something.

They led a team that made something.

As a programmer I wrote my app TheseusA by hand. As a product manager I vibe-coded my other app TheseusB. Then I had my LLM port TheseusA to Python, while I ported TheseusB to Python by hand and deleted the original codebases.

Do I get to claim I made the Python TheseusA, or TheseusB, or neither or both?

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c1sc0 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What about movie directors? Aren't they celebrated as creative geniuses? They're also just leading a team.

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supersour a day ago | parent [-]

A property developer is the other real-world example which comes to my mind.

	▲	soulofmischief 21 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Architects and civil engineers don't physically build the infrastructure they design.

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InitialBP 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Let me correct this then: "Do product managers get to claim that they helped to make something?"

I think product managers surely have a right to claim they "helped" to make something at least. If the team made something then those who work on the team all assisted in "making" the thing.