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NooneAtAll3 5 hours ago

yes, yes, I know the usual song and whistle. That's why I'm saying "other than It's-Not-Pixel"

I'm asking for details

svpk 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's a pretty concrete list so it's unclear to me what you mean. They're also going to support some of the upcoming Motorola phones so it's not just pixels.

I think the short answer of what they'd need to do in a practical way is to release a phone that uses one of the latest Qualcomm processors (those have the required hardware security features), make sure they have at least 5 years of driver support and commit to keeping the phone up to date, allow for relocking the bootloater (they might already do that). And I think that's basically it, the Graphene project would be able to take things from there.

Realistically given that they tend to source older/weaker processors for reasons related to their goals it's unlikely they would source a processor with the required security features for their next model, but that's just a guess.

Telaneo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Fairphone hasn't talked about GrapheneOS at all, instead opting to be in bed with Murena and /e/os, so I doubt they've even bothered to read the list of hardware requirements. They didn't bother with the Fairphone 6, which was released barely a year ago.

warrantisall 2 hours ago | parent [-]

On the opposite, GrapheneOS team explicitly refuses to cooperate with Fairphone. See for yourself on their Twitter feed: https://nitter.net/search?f=tweets&q=fairphone+from%3Agraphe...

microtonal 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Fairphone 6 does not fulfill the hardware requirements (secure enclave, MTE, etc.), nor software requirements (monthly firmware updates, etc.). So there is nothing that GrapheneOS can do at this point. The ball is in Fairphone's court if they want this, but Fairphone seems more interested to cooperate with /e/OS, whose CEO proclaims security hardening is for pedophiles and spies (thereby fueling the narratives that support chat control and such nonsense).

Motorola is going to make devices that fulfill the requirements and GrapheneOS is cooperating with them.

Cider9986 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

>GrapheneOS smearing Fairphone as not secure in 3..2..1..

GrapheneOS would love to support more devices, that "smearing" is explaining that a company doesn't make secure devices, which is completely correct criticism.

Fairphone for various reasons is not able to or willing to achieve the hardware requirements. It's not easy to create some of the worlds most secure devices.