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usernametaken29 2 days ago

I don’t understand this point at all. I think the author has himself confused with the average consumer. For the first time in a decade or so you can buy a PHYSICAL key and use it to sign into websites. I can explain this to any grandma out there. Likewise, I’m an Apple user. Once you’re in Apple universe passkeys are extremely easy. Tap your thumb on the scanner, done. Now we can put on the tinfoil hat and say how this fosters vendor lock in yadda yadda but the last thing I would say is that it has terrible user ergonomics. LOL

RHSeeger 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Once you’re in Apple universe

And there's your blocker. Being limited to only devices from a single vendor is horrible, and a firm no from a lot of people.

> Now we can put on the tinfoil hat and say how this fosters vendor lock

The fact that you call it a tinfoil hat type issue is just insane to me. Literally every person in my household has some apple devices and some other ones (android, windows, etc). And some of them have switched back and forth.

Plus, the "ergonomics" of logging into a website on a random device to check something are awful.

cube00 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Being limited to only devices from a single vendor is horrible, and a firm no from a lot of people.

Maybe for a lot of tech people, I don't think the general public understands the risks enough to care.

usernametaken29 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I literally presented you with the solution in the sentence before. Buy a usb c dongle key. You pay 20 euros to NEVER have to remember a single password ever again. Seems like an ok trade off to me. Likewise you can register multiple passkeys for multiple devices, so long as you do it in sequence (first Apple, then Android) etc. Really it takes very little getting used to. Ever tried to fill out a crap password form which wants 7 special characters but no dashes but uppercase but not uppercase Y and so forth.

NetMageSCW 2 days ago | parent [-]

How does that USB-C dongle work on my corporate computer that has USB blocked? How does it work with my iPhone or my iPad or my Kindle?

RHSeeger a day ago | parent [-]

And how is it better than a password + password manager? Literally everything about what is described is worse than a password + manager.

NicuCalcea 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe it is easy to explain, but passkey promoters have clearly failed to do it. I don't think a single person I know in real life uses one.

jotaen 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> For the first time in a decade or so you can buy a PHYSICAL key and use it to sign into websites. I can explain this to any grandma out there.

What would you answer if grandma asked you what happens if she loses her physical key?