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jaggs 5 hours ago

I'll add my comment from a previous thread:

This is a bit strange. Are they saying that Codeberg no longer accepts vibe coded projects at all?

If so, it seems kind of short sighted. Within a very short period of time all code will be AI code. What then?

And as the models improve, along with better code will come better bug fixing etc etc. So the quality of AI code will absolutely surpass that of human code. What then?

Will the repositories demand proof of programming ability? Why, when AI will be handling everything anyway. It would be rather like driving schools mandating that all drivers can strip an engine before they're allowed to drive? Very odd.

awesan 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not strange to ban chess computers at a chess tournament, and it's equally not strange to ban AI code on a code hosting platform.

The costs involved with hosting a bunch of vibe coded stuff that no one is really invested in or cares about would undermine the mission of Codeberg, so it makes sense for them. Other code hosting platforms can go a different route.

thih9 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Within a very short period of time all code will be AI code.

This is unlikely. Perhaps “most code”, but not “all”.

People can overwhelmingly shift to a new technology, but the old one usually remains in use, even if niche.

skeledrew 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah there are still people out there hand-crafting Assembly. Not so sure about punch carding though; maybe some extreme retro getup.

jjgreen 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Once most code is AI slop, then the training data is tainted -- you know what happens when you eat your own crap ...

skeledrew 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> eat your own crap

Technically you do. Every living thing eats it's own and every other living thing's crap. Just that it's recycled - through other living things - crap (does it stop being "your own" when it's processed by another?).

sakjur 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If that happens, I hope we label it dysentropy.

lionkor 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

See my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49004041

"All code will be AI written" is like saying "all code will be written in an IDE". That in itself doesn't matter, nobody should care,and it doesn't make a difference.

The workflow, or complete lack of a workflow, for vibe coded projects in terms of design, architecture, vision, etc.is the problem. The lack of oversight is the problem, and the lack of thinking by an actual human capable of thinking, is the problem.

JodieBenitez 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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jddj 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It would be rather more like driving schools disallowing autopilot.

Not to say that I agree that the metaphor makes sense here in the first place

applfanboysbgon 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I suppose, if your completely insane fantasy ever becomes reality, they could simply reverse the policy. Codeberg currently lives in the real world, not your fantasy world, so it makes sense to determine policy based on the state of the real world.

casey2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Concerned Citizen: Someone keeps lighting the town hall on fire, can someone arrest them!

Police Officer: #WONTFIX Town hall will be fireproof in the next version

Concerned Citizen: But it's still a crime. And what of the paper and desks inside the building how can that possibly be fireproofed!?

Mayor: Now now Citizen, fireproofing technology has come along way, besides, we've repurposed the Jail House into a Molotov cocktail factory; we couldn't arrest them even if we wanted to.

Concerned Citizen: You did WHAT!? Why would you do that when the Town Hall is burning down every other week!?

Molotov Salesman: Why because this town needs Molotovs to test their fireproofing tech of course. We've set up the arson test pipeline for the good of all in town!

imtringued 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was kind of thinking of switching to codeberg, but now I am questioning their decisions here.

How do you distinguish a vibe coded project from a heavily AI assisted project? The output is AI generated code. The difference between vibe and agentic coding is how selective you are about the end result and not whether it is AI generated or not.

rmunn 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In Codeberg's case, they have chosen not to distinguish between those. Their bright line is "mostly", as in, if your project "mostly" consists of LLM output then it is not allowed. The definition of "mostly" is, of course, vague, and people are going to argue about where the line should be drawn. But there's at least something vaguely approaching an objective measure: they might look through commits and count how many have an LLM listed as a co-author, or they might count the number of lines of code changed by those commits. Who knows, at this point, what they will end up doing. But they're not trying to judge "how well did you curate the output of the LLM"? They have, instead, decided to judge "how many lines/commits/something created by LLMs have ended up in your code?"

skeledrew 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

> people are going to argue

They should just migrate their stuff elsewhere IMO. Even if all current forges go the length of banning AI-assisted projects, before that completely happens there will be several forges which expressly welcome such projects. Guaranteed.

cwillu 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“Vibe coded” does not appear in the patch to the terms of use.

“You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by "generative AI"-tools” would seem to clearly prohibit both vibe coded projects as well as heavily AI assisted projects, assuming both result in mostly AI generated code.

kreco 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I was kind of thinking of switching to codeberg, but now I am questioning their decisions here.

It reads to me that you are afraid of getting your project removed if you ever move. No need to pretend you care about the morality of their decision.

LtWorf 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I seriously hope we codeberg users will be able to survive without your presence.

qsera 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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