> It's Windows Update that's installing LG crapware upon seeing relevant hardware IDs

This is also a misrepresentation. Microsoft has provided LG with a certificate to sign its driver packages with, and allows LG to upload packages to Windows Update, which includes a feature to install sidecar applications. Now, the spirit of this feature is that any application is meant to provide genuine configuration functionality or some graphical front end to the driver's configuration knobs.

LG then abused that feature to provide adware. Now, there are millions of hardware vendors. One can't expect that every driver package submission from every vendor is thoroughly vetted every time, this is a matter of trust and respect.

Sometimes one actually wants the app that comes with the device, like AMD's and NVIDIA's configuration trays.

Even so, I fully expect that after this debacle MS will disable this stuff. There is precedent for this. Synaptics/ELAN/Alps touchpad tray applications largely disappeared after MS implemented precision touchpads somewhere in 2015, and suddenly Windows touchpads became as precise as those on Macs. Likewise with RGB peripherals. Even GPU driver applications have increasingly become less useful as the most important features—power control, adaptive sync, HDR, etc have moved into native Windows settings.

> That headline was a lie.

Kinda agree but let's call it "misinformed" or something, instead of a lie.

sudo dkpg -i FileYouDownloadedFromAnywhere.deb

Wait, you're saying a monitor can just advertise a URL over the video connection for its driver and then Windows will blindly install it, without user confirmation? I thought that LG had submitted these "drivers" (adware) to Microsoft and they approved it.

> Another win for the Linux security model

I swear, OSs have become sports teams.

Linux's 'security model’ has plenty of holes. The very fact the kernel and much of its user-mode is written in C almost guarantees that its security model is worthless. The Linux ecosystem operates on trust and respect that can and has been easily abused by bad actors to provide supply-chain pwnage.

There have been so many zero-click local privilege escalation CVEs I've lost track.

Arch Linux AUR malware: https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/aur-general@lists....

Surely you mean Linux security model (not relevant enough to be targeted by big tech)?

The LG scandal specifically relies on the fact windows will auto install OEM crapware as soon as you plug it in. No other OS does that.

"Fortunately", agent Poettering is on the case, implementing remote attestation for Linux so we can all be secure. Barf.

I'm always wondering how hard it would be to just remove the hardware for spying. Just keep enough hardware to make it a dumb panel, remove the webos logic boards, wifi antenna, etc.

If you care about home cinema it's important. There's a pretty big jump down. You can look up the specs and reviews of the C and G series from LG. Anecdotally quite a few times when people see my 7 year old LG C9 I've had them ask if it was some new expensive TV as they are so impressed with the picture.

reasonably important, if you're never connecting your lg tv to any network, and just connecting it to an AppleTV or something and letting HDMI-CEC control it so you never even see their OS.

If you care about malware you do not plug it into the internet. I think windows computers are pretty mallwareish as well or at least spyware. People who buy Oled buy them because they care about PQ.

2nd best, not. 100th, better to get a great LCD than a junk OLED?

Exactly. If you get the best today it'll be the second best tomorrow anyway. Absolute position is undetectable, you can only perceive change. Use that to your advantage and stay off the treadmill.

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Samsung scored highest on https://www.rtings.com/ for my criteria, and I'm happy with the purchase. I didn't connect it to the network, of course. (I had to stop my handyman from connecting it and he seemed to think I was crazy for insisting.)

Samsung is good, except:

- No Dolby Vision support, only HDR10+ - Issues with judder/micro stutter - History of nerfing TVs via OTA updates - HDMI ports randomly failing - Bad HDMI-CEC implementation - Selling completely different panel generations under the exact same model names.

Their panels are often over-saturated with that fake HDR like look, similar to their phones.

No, qd-oled is still best, LG is closing the gap with tandem oled but is still the second best panel tech.

As long as you keep it off the internet. Otherwise it’s absolute loaded with adverts everywhere.

You can replace the Android TV launcher with an alternative like Projectivy [1] to get rid of whatever nonsense the stock launcher tries to push. Add Flicky [2] to address F-Droid and you've got a nuisance-free Android TV.

[1] https://github.com/spocky/miproja1

[2] https://github.com/mlm-games/flicky