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OscarCunningham 8 hours ago

They're trained on human data. I would expect them to emulate human biases as closely as possible.

avianlyric 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is where harness, and the fact that a machine can be endlessly prompted to try again comes in.

Even if an LLM starts by pursuing things that follow human bias, continuous failures and re-prompting to try something different will eventually force it to consider things outside of what ever biases it has.

You can do the same thing to a human. But most people would consider it unethical to lock someone in a box and force them to keep trying to solve the same problem over and over again until they figure it out.

2b3a51 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Your comment stopped me in my tracks a little bit.

Is a 'bias' in a piece of writing generally a property of word to word choice and sentence to sentence construction or is it something more nebulous? Especially in terms of the appreciation of mathematics and someone's hesitance about publishing a mathematical argument they think is ugly or brute forced in some way.

sebastiennight 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Is a 'bias' in a piece of writing generally a property of word to word choice and sentence to sentence construction or is it something more nebulous?

You might be fascinated when you read the story of Golden Gate Claude: https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude

SiempreViernes 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it? I'd expect most of the training set to be synthetic data extrapolated from a small set of human authored texts.

TeMPOraL 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Most of the training set is half of the Internet. LLMs are pre-trained on general set of human biases and patterns of thinking.

epolanski 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's more complex than that, especially as post training is often goal based.

OscarCunningham 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I wouldn't have expected that there was post training specifically on the issue of looking for proofs vs counter examples. But it might be that other post training has a side effect of making AIs better at looking for counter examples. I wonder if these agents are overall less biased and more rational than humans. Can you expand on what you mean by goal based training?