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zeckalpha 20 hours ago

The frontier is a curve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_front

kube-system 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That is one sense, but it is also use to refer to the frontier of capability. Especially in this context.

IshKebab 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's not what people are normally referring to when they say "frontier models". It means the most capable models full stop. Not the most capable that you can run locally.

barnabee 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I’ve always seen the frontier shown as a curve on a plot. Frontier ≠ SOTA

zarzavat 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Frontier = SOTA.

Pareto frontier ≠ frontier.

chrisweekly 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

true but tfa's title says "frontier open models"

wmf 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Frontier open models are Kimi K3, GLM 5.2, DeepSeek V4 Pro, etc. They're all too big to fit on most Macs.

andsoitis 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> tfa's title says "frontier open models"

Does it? I read: "Run AI models locally on your Mac."

IshKebab 9 hours ago | parent [-]

The submission is "Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac" and on the page it says "Nativ puts frontier intelligence on your desk."

andsoitis 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> puts frontier intelligence on your desk

Which of the models it puts on your desk do you consider frontier intelligence?