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IshKebab 19 hours ago

That's not what people are normally referring to when they say "frontier models". It means the most capable models full stop. Not the most capable that you can run locally.

barnabee 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I’ve always seen the frontier shown as a curve on a plot. Frontier ≠ SOTA

zarzavat 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Frontier = SOTA.

Pareto frontier ≠ frontier.

chrisweekly 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

true but tfa's title says "frontier open models"

wmf 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Frontier open models are Kimi K3, GLM 5.2, DeepSeek V4 Pro, etc. They're all too big to fit on most Macs.

andsoitis 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> tfa's title says "frontier open models"

Does it? I read: "Run AI models locally on your Mac."

IshKebab 9 hours ago | parent [-]

The submission is "Nativ: Run frontier open models locally on your Mac" and on the page it says "Nativ puts frontier intelligence on your desk."

andsoitis 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> puts frontier intelligence on your desk

Which of the models it puts on your desk do you consider frontier intelligence?