| ▲ | lp4v4n a day ago |
| The pessimism in the comments here is entirely the reflection of the times we're living in. Technology got weaponized against the average citizen. It has become a synonym for unemployment, enshittification, mass surveillance and social erosion. If this video appeared in 60's or 70's, people would be in awe imagining the future where robots do everything. |
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| ▲ | letmevoteplease 20 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| "the future where robots do everything" and "unemployment" are the same thing |
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| ▲ | poncho_romero 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes but unemployment where a small cadre of rich elites own the robots and the rest of us are serfs is very different from the public owning and benefiting from the robots in the form of strong social services and UBI. | | |
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| ▲ | mlrtime a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This seems more likely than racism, or us exceptionalism as mentioned above. People are and should be skeptical of this. The natural response would be a) It will put me out of a job b) I won't be able to afford it anyway. |
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| ▲ | echelon a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Those of us who liked the open web and P2P and hacking on projects all the time are seeing these models as a way to rebuild the internet in a shape that pleases us. To build anything and everything we want. Sans opportunity cost. And that's the real value - you don't have to burn the candle of your life away to get what you want. You'll have so much more time now that you aren't AST wrangling. Opportunity cost is vanishing (or at least the cost is multiple orders of magnitude smaller). And that's the most exciting thing that's happened in tech since the internet. I'll probably be able to make my own phone operating system. I'll probably be able to decompile N64 games, port them to Rust, combine them, extend them. In a weekend. I'll probably be able to make my own music management platform while simultaneously working on a few robotics projects. A find my phone button. Automate everything. And that's maybe a month of projects. |
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| ▲ | numpad0 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The whole thing feels like that the US collectively isn't feeling confident about itself in the coming creativity-limited world that AI/AGIs supposedly bring, and that it's not happy about that pessimistic rational projections. I don't know exactly why wouldn't it be or why nothing seem to be done about it, though. Both look to be fundamentally solvable problems to me. | |
| ▲ | noisy_boy 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > You'll have so much more time now that you aren't AST wrangling. So much time because you were fired and have nothing to do. Nothing is as good as oodles of quality time worrying about funding your family's needs. It's amazing. | |
| ▲ | Xalutiono a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Robots will take jobs from massive amount of low income people. AI will take jobs from a massive amount of avg and high income people. The disruption ahead is getting pillowed right now due to physical limitations of progress like amount of energy, building DC, doing research, training models (its still takes 1-3 month). Also a massive buffer will be the boomer going into retirement. Depending on the speed of all of this, we might get a lot poorer before we get abundance everyerwer | | |
| ▲ | dnemmers a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Yep, this is a good read and feels like the correct take. | |
| ▲ | red-iron-pine 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Depending on the speed of all of this, we might get a lot poorer before we get abundance everyerwer not "might", will and it's a hell of a leap to assume massive abundance will follow -- for someone, perhaps, but not the average person | | |
| ▲ | Xalutiono 18 hours ago | parent [-] | | At some point it will be cheaper to give everyone bread instead of paying for your private military. But yeah lets see what going to happen. | | |
| ▲ | sekh60 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | But there's no feeling of power with giving everyone bread. Billionaires seem to have more than just an addiction to big numbers, maybe seem to want to rule over others. |
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| ▲ | echelon 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You have no evidence of this. Also: you can literally make incredible software that would take half a year right now for $200/month. Or free if you run local open weights. You can do branding, marketing, design. You can create comics and movies and video games. You can make an AI tool right now and get customers today. You have no idea how wildly popular this segment is. How much people willingly engage with this stuff and want it. Yet you choose to disengage and complain about a future that hasn't happened. It's more likely that firms will need to hire more to stay competitive. Or that workers will fire their old jobs and break out on their own. Something I used to think was impossible: competing with Google, Apple, Stripe. Not anymore. I think you can compete with anyone. |
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