An independent reproduction of the main result: https://github.com/vicgalle/coevolution-soup

markisus 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is every cool research.

Do you have any idea why the authors chose Z80 as the program language? I have seen other studies in the same spirit that use simpler toy languages like Brainfuck (https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.19108) and I wonder if you could get higher execution speed if you didn't have to execute so much emulator code.

The programs/genomes are extremely tiny. I would be very interested to see what kind of hardware is needed to scale this approach up. How long until we can feed in giant corpuses of text and evolve these little organisms to predict the next letter?

	▲	vicgalle_ 10 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Do you have any idea why the authors chose Z80 as the program language? In that previous paper you cite (by the same group) they tested several substrates for spontaneous replication (BFF, Forth, SUBLEQ, and emulated real CPUs. Z80 and 8080 CPU exps confirmed the rise of self-replicators, with the Z80 notably exhibiting multiple waves of increasingly capable self-replicators. And the instruction set seems quite appropriate for the experiment: Z80 has native block-copying instructions, while it doesn't have MUL, so the task of evaluating polynomials is somewhat more challenging
	▲	BadAstronomer 14 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		This paper is by the same team. My guess is that the BF code that evaluates polynomials is much much longer than the equivalent Z80 code. Thus it may not be expected to evolve in the space and time constraints of this experiment.

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vicgalle_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A small update here: another replication using a different CPU, the 6502. In this case, replicators emerge 100 times less frequently than in Z80, due to a lacking LDIR-like instruction