This is a website made by people who sell phones that are 100% tracker-free, and that run on GrpheneOS.

I wouldn’t recommend domestic violence victims to install graphene os on their phone by themselves

▲ grapheneos an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It's generally better for people to install GrapheneOS themselves since it's very easy and saves a lot of money. It takes 10 minutes to install GrapheneOS with the web installer. It also avoids needing to trust a company to do it, although it's possible to verify an install done by someone else is genuine with the verified boot key fingerprint and/or Auditor. An existing install by someone else should be factory reset it to avoid any sketchy configuration.

Getting a new phone is very useful to someone that's a victim of a controlling partner but it doesn't particularly need to be a GrapheneOS device. GrapheneOS has features useful for this including Auditor and standard Android profiles but we're not specifically recommending it for this ourselves. People who are victims of this probably just need a new phone of any kind and to prioritize other things.

▲ harvey9 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I flashed a pixel using their webpage. They have made it remarkably simple to do.

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mmooss 5 hours ago | parent [-]

How do you know what they installed? Also, I understand that GrapheneOS installs are very simple now.

	▲	harvey9 6 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I should have been explicit: I used the GrapheneOS webpage. I am placing my trust in them but I am not under any particular threat and just liked that they have stated they won't support age verification.
	▲	vhcr 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rdriley/487/papers/Thompson_1984_Ref...
	▲	Cider9986 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Auditor [1] might work. But GrapheneOS recommends flashing yourself. [1] attestation.app

▲ bigiain 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The website also says:

"Australian research shows that 99% of domestic violence cases now involve some form of technology-facilitated abuse."

Where the "Australian research" is linked to a page where the first Key Finding states:

"Over one quarter (27%) of domestic violence cases involve technology-facilitated abuse of children."

Doesn't fill me with confidence in anything they say (even if I do believe the advice is right).

	▲	defrost 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The relevant quote* from the linked Australian research is: `Technology-facilitated abuse is becoming more and more of a key feature of domestic and family violence. A 2015 survey of 546 domestic and family violence frontline workers found that 98% of respondents had clients who had experienced technology-facilitated abuse.` The research then focuses specifically on children, finding that of all the domestic violence cases, 27% involve technology-facilitated abuse of children. Can you expand on what it is that "Doesn't fill [you] with confidence" ? * Page 9: https://www.esafety.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-12/Child...

▲ Cider9986 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm curious what you are considering with recommending buying a privacy phone vs buying a regular phone and flashing in a DV situation?