| ▲ | aanet 5 hours ago |
| > "Two business school professors, curious about A.I. books and whether anyone actually likes them, gathered data about 10 million books published on Amazon over the last five years. They found that the number of e-books published per month had tripled since the release of ChatGPT, to more than 300,000 at the end of last year, from around 100,000 in 2022. (Amazon said that its internal metrics did not show that level of growth, but would not share its figures.). Because romance sells, the professors thought it would be the genre most susceptible to A.I. intervention, but instead it was nonfiction — a term that should probably be used loosely in this context. While A.I.-assisted books received lower customer ratings than human-made ones, they deemed A.I.’s entry into the market a positive development, because the books were selling, if modestly. As economists, they told me, they’re less concerned with literary quality or customer satisfaction than revenue growth and market expansion." One of the writers, Bill Johns, age 70, a retired cyber security consultant: > "Mr. Johns now has 445 books for sale on Amazon. He orders a paperback copy of each one and keeps them on four rotating white bookshelves that are crowded awkwardly next to a couch in his living room. They all feature a photo of him in a serious dark suit — which is A.I. generated. “It was either that or put on a suit and take selfies,” he said." |
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| ▲ | gherkinnn 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > As economists, they told me, they’re less concerned with literary quality or customer satisfaction than revenue growth and market expansion. As a human, I am concerned with these economists. |
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| ▲ | ameliaquining 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In fairness, we haven't heard in these economists' own words what their position is and it's possible that it's more nuanced than the author gives them credit for. (There's the quote about Fifty Shades but that's making a more defensible point and doesn't get into the "customer satisfaction" thing.) | |
| ▲ | javcasas 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Don't be. They are maximizing economy, at the cost of everything else. If anything, they are _perfect_ economists. | | |
| ▲ | Retric 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Economics has long recognized the distinction between GDP and value creation, but not everyone in a field is going to produce the best work. Intangibles and unpaid work get ignored not because they cannot be included but because doing so is harder. |
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| ▲ | janalsncm 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think they’re saying if AI text is causing people to buy (and presumably read) more, that’s a good thing. As in, if these marginal readers actually prefer AI texts, what does that say about human writing? | | |
| ▲ | superjan 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It tells you that human attention can be gamed. | | |
| ▲ | janalsncm 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure, and I feel something for the authors who are in it to write a high-quality novel. For the authors who are in it for the game, writing bottom of the barrel airport checkout line garbage, they were already trying to game people’s attention and they lost to a robot. | | |
| ▲ | mcphage an hour ago | parent [-] | | The existence of someone buying AI slop and being okay with it isn't the same as losing to a robot. Unless you mean losing that specific sale, but they're not outselling human authors yet, and it's not clear they will until their quality improves immensely. | | |
| ▲ | janalsncm 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I do mean losing that specific sale. I’m also referring to the economists who saw an increase in sales. This means there are marginal readers who previously didn’t buy any book but now buy AI slop books, or buy slop books in addition to human ones. |
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| ▲ | recursivecaveat an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is definitely the guy if anybody wants to peruse for themselves: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0F2RNXR5R The most reviews I could find for any book was 6, most with 0. They cluster around 'dad' topics so I assume he selects the topics himself. I wonder how many he has actually read any substantial amount of. I'm always curious to what degree these people are conscious spammers vs koolaid drinkers. I find it funny that he considers it a ridiculous idea to have his picture actually taken once for an author photo lol. |
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| ▲ | vidarh 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| KDP now has a limit of 10 books per week to limit it unless you can convince them you're a legitimate publisher, and e.g. Draft2Digital does not submit ebooks to Amazon any more for the same reason. But you can still offer paperbacks via any number of third party providers that will be available via Amazon. |
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| ▲ | bluefirebrand 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > One of the writers, Bill Johns, age 70, a retired cyber security consultant This is crazy to me. You're 70! Just be retired and fuck off, stop actively making the world a worse place! |
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| ▲ | jambalaya8 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| This is <sarcasm>good</sarcasm>. It should eventually make writing not a viably profitable career for anyone also. How the heck will people ever stand out and not just be grey goo? How will anyone know what is good versus garbage? |
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| ▲ | gtowey 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We are going to go back to human-only networks for filtering the garbage into a trusted set of recommendations. Maybe where the only music you can trust are local artists you can see live. Or where the books you read are from a friend-of-a-friend who knows the author. Maybe the world of tomorrow looks more like the world we left behind. | | |
| ▲ | jrockway 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think 100% of the books I've read in the last year have been recommendations from friends. This is kind of annoying as I'd like to be able to give them recommendations in return, but ... limited time. I wish that I could doomscroll literature instead of short videos, but the economics apparently don't work out. | | |
| ▲ | jambalaya8 an hour ago | parent [-] | | I used to recommend books to friends generally when I was young, then I started getting really specific about what books to recommend to whom as I got older. I wonder what stuff like this (and AI in general) will cause more of? |
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| ▲ | Calazon 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Knowing that some songs are by local artists who I could go see live doesn't tell me very much about the quality of the music, unfortunately. My friends recommending the music does though, assuming we have similar taste. | |
| ▲ | MrGilbert 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So the algorithmic system could potentially destroy itself. Neat! |
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| ▲ | dylan604 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Would publishers be willing to go to the level of pulling a Milli Vanilli where they hire people to make appearances as the author? Or would a litmus test to see if an author has attended any book signings be valid? | | |
| ▲ | jambalaya8 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Fewer and fewer author appearances are in person. Book signings are being limited more and more to the author's name and are done via pre-order, with the readings and chats done online (especially with well-known authors). Book tours are much more rare than they were. Book tours are expensive. | |
| ▲ | close04 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That sounds like a cost of doing business so the question is whether using this method increases profit more than any other. | | | |
| ▲ | pessimizer 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JT_LeRoy#Exposure |
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