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goldenarm 2 hours ago

IANAL, but is it illegal to have a "Buy" button that is just a disguised "Rent" button?

If not, should we change the law?

qingcharles 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

California Assembly Bill 2426 (AB 2426), effective 1 January, 2025. Expands the state's false advertising laws to explicitly ban companies from using words like "buy," "purchase," "own," or "keep" if what the customer is actually getting is a revocable digital license governed by shady T&Cs.

dataflow 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Is it working/being enforced? Anecdotally I haven't seen or heard of any changes in verbiage, but I haven't been paying that much attention.

galleywest200 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Steam/Valve follow the law: https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/11/24267864/steam-buy-purch...

ikekkdcjkfke 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Remember that the power is always with the people. We can enact any law we want

mrweasel 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apple was sued for having revoking access to hundreds of movies that a customer purchased. They tried to claim that "No reasonable consumer would believe' that purchased content would remain on the iTunes platform indefinitely".

Sadly the case was settled, see: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/apple-settles-alleg...

vman81 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They'll argue you're "buying" a license that they can revoke when they feel like it. My feelings on the matter have been summed up by someone else more clever than me as:

If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing.

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Garvi 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Copying something isn't stealing by any legal definition. It's copyright infringement.

eloisius an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I’m just collecting training data for my AI.

ivan_gammel an hour ago | parent [-]

authentic intelligence?

reactordev 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

[delayed]

RajT88 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You wouldn't steal a baby

yladiz a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

Speak for yourself.

comrade1234 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I might download one.

imglorp an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm hoping someday this will go the same way as other companies trying to redefine "unlimited", "free", or "lifetime". I hope lawyers reclaim "buy", "own", and "purchase" from shitbag marketers back into contract law, where they have English meanings.

https://retailwire.com/t-mobile-att-verizon-fined-10-2m-for-...

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/07/lawsuit-t-mobile...

At the very least, if Sony yanks your purchase, they should merely refund it in full.

teeray 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

A $10m fine for mobile telcos is a rounding error. “Softer quarter due to outstanding legal and regulatory obligations…” The fines need to be a standard percentage of income or the personal assets / freedom of officers needs to be on the line if we want those punishments to change behavior.

chillfox 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pretty sure you could get some action from the ACCC here in Australia if you go through the process to lodge a complaint.

inanutshellus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"we're training the public that they're 'buying' a revokable license, not the song" ~MPAA ;)

Razengan 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Unrelated, but that is such an unfortunate acronym.. There's no way the people who perpetuated it didn't know what they were doing

I propose, let's see..

Definitely Isn’t Legal Doctrine, Obviously

or.. Based Only On Basic Speculation

perhaps Consult Official Counsel, Kindly

or more succinct, This Isn’t Trained Solicitor Advice