Then what happened?

Better regulation, better enforcement, anti-smoking advertising campaigns, banning public smoking, and drastically reduced amongst youth and the general public.

Cigarette regulation to reduce smoking starting in the mid/late 90s is the poster child for public policy done well.

now they have vape vending machines!

Yeah, and where are they now?

Kids can still order wine and cigars from the internet without ID. When I was a child I did it. The law doesn't require signature on delivery, and the deliveryman has no idea what's inside and thus will accept signature from anyone including me when I was a child.

The regulations on selling tobacco in person AFAIK are only for cigarette and cigeratte labeled type rolling tobacco. You can still order perfectly cigarette smokable "pipe" tobacco online straight from an internet "vending machine" and probably a real one. Very few people know this though because it turns out to not actually be a much of a problem.

That's cynical nonsense and I don't believe a word of it. Prohibition was repealed by popular vote, not by bought-out politicians.

And we're not 'oppressing' fent addicts by arresting them when they pass out on the sidewalk in front of my apartment. They are causing a problem for the rest of society that we now have to deal with. That's why we do the war on drugs.

There's lots of evidence for positive influences of Caffeine on the body (some negative as well), especially the brain. In particular, there's active and promising research on the neuroprotective effects for Alzheimer's [1] and Parkinson's [2].

"There is a wealth of accumulating biological, epidemiological and clinical evidence to support the further investigation of selective adenosine A2A antagonists, as well as caffeine, as promising candidate therapeutics to fill the unmet need for disease modification of PD."

1: https://www.mdpi.com/2218-273X/13/6/967 2: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33349580/

Psychology in general tends to make the same distinction. There are lots of behaviors which may be considered abnormal but do not have a meaningful impact on the quality of life of the person or those around them, and so there little reason to pathologize it. The goal of medicine (and, in my mind, well-designed public policy) is to prolong quality of life and not to ensure everything adheres to strict standards.

caffeine addictions are good for you? so i guess all of the people taking stomach meds are doing it for fun and not how much coffee wrecks your stomach. also the number of our teens/young adults addicted to energy drinks is insane and no one can argue that stuff isnt a net negative to the body

Nicotine has positive and negative effect tobacco is one delivery method.

Side effects of caffeine withdraw? Lack of focus, nervous, poor sleeping, vivid dreams.

Sugar in moderation is a fine thing the issue the US has is more focused on how pervasive sweeteners have become in what looks like savory food. A ban would be a very silly thing but at some point America needs an FDA with teeth to actually crack down on labeling requirements.

Sugar is required for biology. I'm no more addicted to sugar than I am to water, air or just being alive.

These are incredibly reductionist arguments y’all are engaging in.

It doesn’t even compare man. I am pro legalization of drugs but it doesn’t mean they should be as unregulated as kratom currently is

Not really but great talking point. The exact quote is it's as hard to quit smoking as heroin. But in reality getting off heroin cold turkey can kill you, where you need to be locked in room sweat it out. People quiting smoking still go to work but their mood is poor. Not the same at all.

most states require farmers to put additives in their cow feed to specifically prevent those mushrooms, they are already actively regulated