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leonidasv 7 hours ago

This is the most important part most people don't get:

> And what would 3 °C mean for Germany?

> FB: In summer, meteorological records could reach up to 50 °C. Three degrees of global warming does not mean hot days will just be 3 or 4 degrees hotter. It could mean up to 10 degrees hotter. We would also face much longer droughts.

3°C warming implies summer days can get 10°C hotter. This is nightmare scenario.

dataflow 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> This is the most important part most people don't get

I wouldn't say "people don't get" it when it's not well-communicated. When the headline always says 2-3 degrees, of course people are going to shrug.

orwin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It was always explained that way to me though. the "Our house is burning, and we are looking away" speech was like 20 years ago and it was pretty clear then than average increase in temps mostly mean higher maximums and minimums.

Nowadays, people who never did anything to consume less (and made fun of people who stopped taking the plane) can't hide behind the "we didn't know" because everybody knew, so they hide behind the "it was not predicted to be as bad" and other "the scientists explained that poorly", but we know what's up, even when they lie to themselves.

spwa4 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What do you mean? Both Europe and America moved industrial production to China (which was an explicit choice/policy) which as a side effect radically increased the amount of coal used to power industrial production, BUT lets Europeans and Americans both pay less (ie. make workers poorer) AND lets them claim innocence for CO2 increases, while in fact increasing their CO2 use indirectly.

rolph 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

this also means thermal turbulence which means breakup of flow, and that means failure of distribution, leading to localized torrid spots, that translates to heat dome regions of more than 10°C hotter.

foxglacier 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Are you saying those researchers got their upper bound too low? You should inform them of their mistake.

aaron695 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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foxglacier 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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homosapien97 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Are you being intentionally obtuse? In normal language the quoted text means there is a meaningful chance of record temperatures 10 degrees hotter than current records.

ffsm8 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is weasel language which actually says nothing in order to not be disprovable

The reason we see it all the time is because we've gotten used to people trying to convince us that some unlikely scenario will take place to increase urgency.

While global warming is happening, the quoted sentence should be raising your "this is someone trying to convince me of something that has a neglectable likelihood of becoming reality"-alarm

But sure, it could be that we may get a significant heat up within the next 20 years. Regardless of that, if you're living in Germany you probably should get an AC, as even if that doesn't manifest, things can already get too warm

foxglacier 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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goatlover 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a temperature range and percent likelihood. The warmer the planet, the greater the odds of experiencing these sorts of conditions.