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khurs an hour ago

>The state currently has more than 130 data centers, according to Data Center Map, compared with more than 600 in Virginia and about 500 in Texas.

Texas is physically larger and 'business frienedly' so suspect they will be getting a lot more.

Taylor Sheridan can do a new series where a Ranch owned by a family for many generations is targeted by a Datacentre company.

dfansteel 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Taylor Sheridan can do a new series where a Ranch owned by a family for many generations is targeted by a Datacentre company.

It’s all fun and games until the cost of beef and oil skyrockets.

piltdownman an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Governance of that oh-so-dependable Texan power grid are going to engage in some macabre arithmetic this Winter...

orangedog an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That happened in 2021 and we haven't had similar issues since. I haven't experienced a power grid failure since then.

measurablefunc 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

According to Google, Texas currently has about 87GW of peak capacity & a data center production pipeline that will require 75-100GW. So the state will have to basically double its peak capacity to supply power to all those new data centers.

pembrook 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

And they will, because Texas allows building.

Question, how do you think the entire infrastructure around you that you’ve taken for granted your whole life was built?

If you were asked, would you vote to allow the building of your own home, the roads around it, and the businesses whose tax revenue funds your local municipality?

ecshafer an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

many of the data centers are being built with natural gas generators on site, and they are using excess gas from the oil drilling.

axus 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The gas generators are what make the hum that people complain about; I'd expect the outside of a data center to be quiet without those.

Better for the extra natural gas to power data centers than to "accidentally" leak into the atmosphere .

piltdownman an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Texas is the only state in the lower 48 that has no major connections to neighboring power grids. That means growing energy demand in Texas must be met by new power generation in Texas.

Texas has not improved energy efficiency standards since the 2021 blackout, and have resisted all attempts at increasing the governance of the gas generation.

The Electric Reliability Council of Texas' "Capacity, Demand and Reserves report" even details a scenario in which massive energy demand growth in the state surpasses available supply in 2026.

https://www.ercot.com/files/docs/2025/02/12/CapacityDemandan...

Now add data centre demand in a climate where passive-cooling isn't viable and inter-state redundancy is non-existent.

dopa42365 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/US-TEX-ERCO/live/fi...

Despite all the yapping, there's a crap ton of (ever growing) solar and wind and battery storage and what not in Texas. And ERCOT does have a power link with the neighboring SPP.

https://www.spp.org/documents/71831/ercot-spp%20coordination...

No one wants the grid to collapse after all (except you I guess, for whatever reason).

coryrc 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Texas is the second-biggest state. Where are they going to make major connections to -- the Great Prairie? There's a whole New Mexico-worth of sparse population between Dallas/Austin/San Antonio before you get to New Mexico itself, which you would then need to cross halfway before you hit a major population center.

Enron fiasco put a local power company here in WA in insurmountable debt because they couldn't ship power to California because the lines were already overloaded. If you build a major new power-consuming plant in Washington, you'll need to get power from someplace closer than half the width of Texas (and only even that far because historically we had coal power plants in Montana, so there's existing long-distance transmission).

I'm not saying they haven't made mistakes, but saying a place had "no major connections" is both wrong and ignores why. El Paso has "major" connections to New Mexico. It shouldn't be surprising Dallas doesn't have "major" connections to New Mexico, just like Denver CO doesn't to Portland OR.

PaywallBuster 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Interconnection

> The Texas Interconnection is tied to the Eastern Interconnection with a 220 MW DC tie near Oklaunion, and a 600 MW DC tie near Monticello, and is tied to NERC (North American Electric Reliability Corporation) systems in Mexico with a 300 MW DC tie near McAllen, and a 100 MW VFT tie near Laredo.[29] There is one AC tie switch in Dayton, Texas

weberer 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

>in a climate where passive-cooling isn't viable

Chips can also be water cooled, and Texas borders an endless supply of water in the Gulf of America.

prpl 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

weberer 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

Completely serious. Sea water cooling for data centers is already in use here in Helsinki. And water temperature in the Gulf of America doesn't seem to go above 30 C even in the summer.

https://news.ftcpublications.com/core/coastal-cities-test-se...

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/regsatprod/gom/sst_map.php

verdverm 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

Sea water would have to be piped to places like Dallas, whereas much of Finland's people/data centers are closer to the shoreline. A solution that works in certain places does not generally work everywhere.

weberer a minute ago | parent [-]

There's no need to build them in Dallas. Just keep them near the shoreline. The only reason you have so many data centers in North Jersey is so high frequency traders can make their calls 0.02ms before their competitors on the NYSE. For an average user, the 1ms ping between Dallas and Corpus Christi is not a problem.

dylan604 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Taylor Sheridan's movie studio is on land that was once a ranch

khurs 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Really? How ironic

thisisit 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Taylor Sheridan can do a new series where a Ranch owned by a family for many generations is targeted by a Datacentre company.

More likely he is going to make something like Landman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landman_(TV_series)#Renewable_...

story about a salt of the earth datacenter operator who manages the datacenter and people while spreading misinformation about the impact of datacenters on people.