| ▲ | piltdownman an hour ago |
| The Governance of that oh-so-dependable Texan power grid are going to engage in some macabre arithmetic this Winter... |
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| ▲ | orangedog an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| That happened in 2021 and we haven't had similar issues since. I haven't experienced a power grid failure since then. |
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| ▲ | measurablefunc 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | According to Google, Texas currently has about 87GW of peak capacity & a data center production pipeline that will require 75-100GW. So the state will have to basically double its peak capacity to supply power to all those new data centers. | | |
| ▲ | pembrook 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | And they will, because Texas allows building. Question, how do you think the entire infrastructure around you that you’ve taken for granted your whole life was built? If you were asked, would you vote to allow the building of your own home, the roads around it, and the businesses whose tax revenue funds your local municipality? |
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| ▲ | ecshafer an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| many of the data centers are being built with natural gas generators on site, and they are using excess gas from the oil drilling. |
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| ▲ | axus 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The gas generators are what make the hum that people complain about; I'd expect the outside of a data center to be quiet without those. Better for the extra natural gas to power data centers than to "accidentally" leak into the atmosphere . | |
| ▲ | piltdownman an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Texas is the only state in the lower 48 that has no major connections to neighboring power grids. That means growing energy demand in Texas must be met by new power generation in Texas. Texas has not improved energy efficiency standards since the 2021 blackout, and have resisted all attempts at increasing the governance of the gas generation. The Electric Reliability Council of Texas' "Capacity, Demand and Reserves report" even details a scenario in which massive energy demand growth in the state surpasses available supply in 2026. https://www.ercot.com/files/docs/2025/02/12/CapacityDemandan... Now add data centre demand in a climate where passive-cooling isn't viable and inter-state redundancy is non-existent. | | |
| ▲ | dopa42365 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/US-TEX-ERCO/live/fi... Despite all the yapping, there's a crap ton of (ever growing) solar and wind and battery storage and what not in Texas. And ERCOT does have a power link with the neighboring SPP. https://www.spp.org/documents/71831/ercot-spp%20coordination... No one wants the grid to collapse after all (except you I guess, for whatever reason). | |
| ▲ | coryrc 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Texas is the second-biggest state. Where are they going to make major connections to -- the Great Prairie? There's a whole New Mexico-worth of sparse population between Dallas/Austin/San Antonio before you get to New Mexico itself, which you would then need to cross halfway before you hit a major population center. Enron fiasco put a local power company here in WA in insurmountable debt because they couldn't ship power to California because the lines were already overloaded. If you build a major new power-consuming plant in Washington, you'll need to get power from someplace closer than half the width of Texas (and only even that far because historically we had coal power plants in Montana, so there's existing long-distance transmission). I'm not saying they haven't made mistakes, but saying a place had "no major connections" is both wrong and ignores why. El Paso has "major" connections to New Mexico. It shouldn't be surprising Dallas doesn't have "major" connections to New Mexico, just like Denver CO doesn't to Portland OR. | |
| ▲ | PaywallBuster 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Interconnection > The Texas Interconnection is tied to the Eastern Interconnection with a 220 MW DC tie near Oklaunion, and a 600 MW DC tie near Monticello, and is tied to NERC (North American Electric Reliability Corporation) systems in Mexico with a 300 MW DC tie near McAllen, and a 100 MW VFT tie near Laredo.[29] There is one AC tie switch in Dayton, Texas | |
| ▲ | weberer 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | >in a climate where passive-cooling isn't viable Chips can also be water cooled, and Texas borders an endless supply of water in the Gulf of America. | | |
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