Don't fall for the trap. The question isn't how we should technically force age verification on anybody. The question is why they're pushing it onto everyone. I did not consent to this, neither did you.

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jck86 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

But it is needed to protect the children. The politicians say so, so it has to be true. Being against this is very dangerous to our children and democracy. There is no alternative.

Seriously, there is something tremendously wrong with governance when politicians keep changing the whole world around us, without us having any say in it at all. The threat this measure poses to the internet and society is significant, yet it is being pushed through without any substantial debate or push back. This just is not how decent and actual democracies should function. What messed up timeline is this?

	▲	anal_reactor 18 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> Seriously, there is something tremendously wrong with governance when politicians keep changing the whole world around us, without us having any say in it at all. That's where you're wrong. Most people actually do agree with age verification. Just because a decision is stupid it doesn't mean it's undemocratic. Trump was elected democratically, twice. Brexit passed through a referendum.
	▲	roundabout-host 31 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Children die from wrongly-prepared food, thus we should only allow people to eat at McDonald's from now on! /s

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ilumanty 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, I said it before and I will say it again: We should invest our energy in the discussion whether to implement it and not already wonder how to implement it.

Shifting this question benefits only those who want to force this upon us.

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tikkabhuna an hour ago | parent [-]

Doesn't the "how to implement" determine whether to implement it? A poor implementation shouldn't be done, but a good implementation could make it simpler for companies to verify the ages of users, limit information passed to companies, offer a quality of life improvement for users.

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lstodd an hour ago | parent [-]

The question is -- why they even need to verify ages of users. This is not decided, and my take is that they do not.

	▲	snottynose 44 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It's funny, concomittant all this chest beating about representing open societies, democracies, unlike those creepy evil authoritarian states which we don't like, that the EC seems hell bent on proving we can have a police state _just_ as intrusive if not more than say: Russia. This is not how we were supposed to prove that we are better.