Remix.run Logo
matheusmoreira 4 hours ago

You've accurately described the current state of Lobsters.

3 hours ago | parent | next [-]
[deleted]
archagon 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

As opposed to wonderful old HN, where about 95% of the front page is now AI, AI-related, or AI-generated.

matheusmoreira 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's significant overlap between the front pages of HN and Lobsters. Almost every time I try to submit the interesting articles I see on Lobsters here, I just get redirected to the existing discussion thread.

The massive 1000+ comments/upvotes AI model release threads only show up on HN. Lobsters doesn't accept "business" articles like that. You're quite likely to find reactionary articles that are critical of AI on the front page though. There are several on the front page right now, in addition to the ones derisively tagged vibecoding.

mmastrac 3 hours ago | parent [-]

There's a bot user that seems to crosspost every lobsters story here if it isn't already.

dang 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's a high exaggeration of course, but in the wonderful old HN tradition of perceiving the site as dominated by $badness, where everyone has their own perception of $badness.

I'm not picking on you - it's practically a universal response, so much so that it must be driven by human hard-wiring. I've written about this so many times that for once I don't even know what to link to. Perhaps https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23308098. Or maybe https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48427800

archagon 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Fine. Looking at today's /active, it's more than half just based on the titles. (Likely 2/3 or more in practice, but I did not delve into each post.) And this does not feel particularly unusual.

mh- 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

(Apologies if you've commented on the following already, but I've not seen it.)

The most concerning growing trend I see is comments that don't violate any guidelines, but are flagged to dead.

I'm not talking about posters that are shadowbanned, but about comments that engaged thoughtfully on a topic but the rest of the thread disagreed emphatically with.

I also don't even mean controversial takes on hot-button issues like vaccines.

Just plain old bucking the trend in a thread about AI, transit, housing, layoffs, etc.

I've been browsing with showdead on for as long as I can remember, and I'm seeing this accelerate. Comments from folks both you and I respect as high quality contributors here.

I don't know what the solution is, but it discourages me (and I'm sure others) from having the kind of thought-provoking dialog I've gotten used to reading here for the last 15 years.

defrost 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> comments that don't violate any guidelines, but are flagged to dead.

Vouch them and/or email to hn@ycombinator.com and say why you think they deserve to be [undead].

I see that a lot, some have been erroneously caught by the real time AI detect filter (which actually isn't too bad at slicing out the actual AI gen comments) others have gone hard against the zeitgeist.

I've had the mods reinstate comments that I've thoroughly disagreed with but were making their best case for an opposing view - the threads are better with the best arguments forward for all sides of the elephant.

mh- 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

I always vouch them but have never bothered to email. I figure the mods are seeing the same HN I am. But maybe I spend too much time here some evenings..

But yes, it's the "going against the zeitgeist" ones I have in mind. It feels very damaging to the community.

dang 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I'd need to see specific links, but many of those posts are probably being killed because our software classified them as being genai, which is not allowed on HN (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079.)

mh- 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

In the meantime, here's one I saw recently:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48660796

mh- 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Happy to find and email you some when I'm at my desk.

(I'm well aware of the genAI policy, and very supportive of it.)

grahamburger 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And the remainder is people complaining about all the AI