| ▲ | michaelchisari 4 hours ago |
| If you've ever been in an home owned for generations, filled with books and knickknacks and heirlooms and family photos, despite the clutter it all feels comforting in a way that modern decor doesn't. The article doesn't touch much on why modern decor emerged as it did. It's a market response where everyone needs to (or feels the need to) pick up and move at a moment's notice. Companies are either expanding or like to think they'll be expanding soon. People move jobs so often that they have a hard time feeling settled where they are, so they design for that possibility. The modern aesthetic is one of planned impermanence. |
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| ▲ | obscurette 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I had a discussion regarding this some time ago with my grandchild who has an ADHD diagnosis. She has troubles being in noisy (especially visually) environments, yet she finds my home (relatively large home full of books, music always playing etc) comforting. She explained that all this stuff in my home is interesting for her and speaks with her - "It's you and grandma, it's full of stories". But the very modern and "must be comforting" environment in school full of patterns and pictures drawn on walls etc is just irritating – "There is no stories, just noise". |
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| ▲ | rr808 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My parents lived in the same house for 40 years, my entire childhood was there. My grandparents (both sets) lived in their house for 50 years. I can't comprehend how Americans keep moving for jobs or to upgrade or to get to a better school district. Surely you want some permanence? Get to know your neighbors? Edit yes I did move around in my twenties, but that stopped at 30. |
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| ▲ | Spooky23 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Remember people marry later if at all so you break the cohort developments of growing up and adulting. I helped lead my local little league. It’s different than it used to be - it’s pretty typical to have tball parents in their 40s. A group of parents from 20s to 50s aren’t going to hang out, they don’t relate. I’m a late genx, most of my friends parents were in their 30s when I was a little leaguer. The demise of old line churches is similar. We did CYO basketball in the same parish my wife did. It’s the last of what was 8-10 catholic parishes in my city. And unlike in my youth where you had good mix multigenerational parishioners… the parish survives based on the beneficence of 5-10 people in their late 60s and 70s, with few people rising to behind them. Mainline Protestant parishes are similar. The only growth in religious communities are independent Baptists, which are great but integrate into the broader community differently, because each church mostly stands alone and isn’t part of a bigger system. | | |
| ▲ | frogperson 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Church groups, or at least an awful lot of them, were co-opted by groups like the Council For National Policy (parent group of the Heritage Foundation). I think a lot of younger folks see through the BS and don't want to send their time listening to hate speech discussed as gospel. These churches chose thier path, and so did their parishioners. | | |
| ▲ | antonymoose 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | What church(es) are you thinking of here exactly? I’ve never heard of any such group in my entire independent Southern Baptist life. On the contrary, most folks in the 20-40 range are tired of “cafeteria Christian” denominations that pick and chose which parts of scripture to stand by and which go ignore based on ever shifting social trends, whether it be so-called woke churches hosting drag performers or Boomer-tier Endtimes preachers that can’t stop talking about their all expense paid Israeli “pilgrimage.” | | |
| ▲ | dpark an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > I’ve never heard of any such group in my entire independent Southern Baptist life. I grew up in the South and distinctly remember the Southern Baptist preachings against interracial marriage based on selective (mis)readings of the Bible, against homosexuality based on selective readings of the Old Testament (pick and choose indeed; hate gays while eating your BBQ pork). I remember the constant calls for boycott of Disney parks because of “gay days”. I don’t know what it’s like I’m a Southern Baptist church now, but I seriously doubt it’s changed much. | | |
| ▲ | antonymoose 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Well, that’s quite a bit of baggage to unpack. In regards to “miscegenation” we have Galatians which largely renders that point moot, highlighting everyone’s love of cherry-picking scripture. In regards to homosexuality, you have Leviticus, I assume you’re referencing. Given the widespread practice of man-boy relations as famously highlighted by the Spartans and of course recent special military operations in Afghanistan I have an incredibly hard time believing this piece of scripture is at all misinterpreted. Regarding BBQ, I assume that’s a presence to kosher law and subsequently an attempt at calling hypocrite on the congregation. In that regard we have quite a few pieces of scripture, e.g. in Mark, effectively redefining and negating much of kosher law thereby making that issue moot. Overall - your assumption around Southern Baptists largely stands. Our last church, my wife had to constantly deal with snide remarks because of her having previously been married to a man that went and overdosed on fentanyl. Meanwhile half the grandparents in the congregation are raising their own grandchildren for the exact same reason… Which leads to our currently being “unchurched” as they say, because the worst part of Christianity is the other Christians ;) |
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| ▲ | watwut 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So like, scripture has issue with drag performance? I read bible, actually, and can argue it does not mention it. That being said, every single denomination picks and chooses. Especially more conservative ones. And in fact, you cant take it all literally and quite a lot is not applicable. | |
| ▲ | beardyw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > pick and chose which parts of scripture to stand by OK. Next time you read the parable of the good Samaritan I want you to reframe it as "The Good Drag Queen". That's how you are meant to see it. | | |
| ▲ | antonymoose an hour ago | parent [-] | | I read it as a take encouraging me to render aid to anyone in a dire emergency regardless of their background. | | |
| ▲ | dpark an hour ago | parent [-] | | That’s a very narrow reading. The parable was in response to the question “who’s my neighbor” in the “love thy neighbor” statement and Jesus basically said “even those you hate”(i.e. the Samaritans). | | |
| ▲ | antonymoose 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I can love you and still disagree with the things you do and not endorse them. These are not in conflict. | | |
| ▲ | dpark 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | This claim hinges on the idea that homosexuality is a thing you do and not a part of who you are. You can love someone while hating a thing they do. You cannot love someone while hating who they are. The conservative Christian notion that homosexuality is a choice to is honestly super weird to me because I certainly never chose heterosexuality. It’s one of those things that only makes sense while you’re in it and it’s constantly being beat into you, and with some distance you see that it’s ridiculous. | | |
| ▲ | antonymoose 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | You’re free to believe whatever it is you like - that’s your belief system. I didn’t intend to start a theological debate ultimately. Only highlight as a counterpoint to the GP that going to church in the modern era really feels like you have to pick one side or another and that it’s simply an extension of politics rather than an higher-order thing. |
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| ▲ | wizzwizz4 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | "Even those you hate" is too strong a reading, in my view. "Even those you are bigoted towards", perhaps. (Jesus did say elsewhere to love your enemies, but I don't think this parable says that.) | | |
| ▲ | dpark 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Even those you are bigoted towards I agree this is a better reading. Of course this makes it even more apt guidance for the Southern Baptists (and others) who preach bigotry. |
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| ▲ | Timwi an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not sure how to feel about your implication that unmarried people are neither grown up nor adults. | | |
| ▲ | yoyohello13 an hour ago | parent [-] | | They are obviously Christian. Christians tend to have a dim view of anyone that doesn't marry and have children (unless they join the clergy). |
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| ▲ | greygoo222 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The world is so big, why spend 40 years in a single place? | |
| ▲ | ip26 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You describe it like it’s some kind of a treadmill chasing new. But if you have kids at 35, they start school when you’re 40.. were you thinking about the quality of the neighborhood schools when you bought your house at 25? Or suppose you meet your spouse when you are 30, after you bought a house. There’s inherently much less moving-around if you get married at 18 and have kids straight away - the plan is settled from the start. | |
| ▲ | marssaxman 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I really don't want permanence, no! I start to feel fidgety and uncomfortable after I've spent too many years in one place. The idea of living in a single house for decades on end sounds like a kind of imprisonment. I think of Seattle as "home", and once lived there for twenty-three years straight - but I had nine different addresses during that time. I am probably more of a nomad at heart than the average American, but perhaps Americans have more of a nomadic temperament than the average human. Getting to know your neighbors can be a mixed bag. Sometimes you make a great new friend: sometimes you're stuck with an obstreperous busybody. It can be nice not having to spend your whole life dealing with the same people and the same conflicts. | | |
| ▲ | kakacik an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yeah tight communities are blessing, nightmare or both. Good luck with privacy, some people are nosy by default or simply self-centered... weirdos to be polite, gossip, looking down on differences, hard to integrate for newcomers, and one has to conform to unspoken rules, like them or not. Not exactly feeling of proper freedom, is it. If you get into beef with your neighbor for something which is trivial over long time, now you are stuck with an asshole next door for next 30-50 years. Its not just US, we moved in Switzerland from very cosmopolitan and international Geneva to small village in wineyards and all this applies at least as much. |
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| ▲ | xyzelement 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is it really an American thing? Every company's London office is filled with Germans, French, Italians and polaks/Russian. How'd they get there | |
| ▲ | cosmic_cheese 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Problem is, unless you happen to live in a relatively wealthy neighborhood, even if you stay put your neighbors and community probably won’t so you still won’t have much permanence. | |
| ▲ | jacobolus 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Housing has gotten much more expensive in many places, and jobs less stable. |
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| ▲ | appreciatorBus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I am skeptical this is the origin of modern decor. The trend away from ornamentation, toward simplicity, flatness, etc in design goes back several generations and transcends interior design. If the thesis was true, we'd expect rich people who will never be compelled to move against their will, or to move into less space, would prefer cluttered homey interiors, and poor people would prefer sparse & modern. In reality, the biggest boosters of modern decor are rich people. |
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| ▲ | analog31 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Here's the story that made sense to me: In the pre industrial age, visible ornamentation was symbolic of a craftsman's skill and attention to detail, when you couldn't inspect the invisible aspects of a product. For instance a violin has an ornately carved scroll, and features such as the "bees sting," whereas you can't take it apart to see if the neck mortise is precisely fitted. It is one of the few pre-industrial-age products whose aesthetics have not changed much. Today, those features are no longer necessary, and we look for other measures of quality in products -- for better or worse. I grew up in a "midcentury modern" house, and my family lives in one today. I find the modern decor to be comforting because in my case it reminds me of home. My mom claimed that the sparse decor was easier to maintain, for instance: "There are no knick-knacks to dust around." Truth be told, the house also happened to be available during a very frothy market, and my spouse would have chosen something more traditional. It's also claimed that the simpler decor works in smaller houses. We were not rich. The MCM houses in my 'hood, including ours, are certainly not clutter free, yet still feel pleasant and comfortable. | | |
| ▲ | AJ007 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | What are we talking about here? I didn't read the full article but I looked at the synopsis at the top: "Striped patterns, flickering lights, bright glare, and crowded visual environments such as supermarkets" With the exclusion of striped patterns, this just sounds like a typical over lit commercial environments, probably overhead fluorescent lights, maybe lights and screens running at different refresh rates. That has nothing to do with home decor of any era or culture. Also I'm guessing the acoustics are consistently horrible in these environments too. Air quality probably sucks too. | | |
| ▲ | analog31 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Indeed, I'm a musician and the acoustics of most modern commercial environments suck. |
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| ▲ | WillAdams 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Only the rich can afford to own nothing/exert effort to have empty space without consequence. Ordinary folks when presented with an object have to perform a mental calculation over the cost/inconvenience of storage vs. disposal and if wanted again, replacement. | | |
| ▲ | fcarraldo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The rich also can afford to keep their minimalist modern spaces clean and clutter-free, through paying staff. These environments tend to look awful when not tended to continuously because a single out-of-place item is so clearly visible. Cluttered old homes with lots of things all over the place make it a bit less jarring when there's a stack of work left out on a table. | | |
| ▲ | tpm 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > Cluttered old homes with lots of things all over the place make it a bit less jarring when there's a stack of work left out on a table. that's wrong: my minimalist (in looks, not in equipment) all white kitchen looks completely fine even after a dinner party, because even then it doesn't look full, dirty or cluttered. The old one (and it wasn't that old, only there were more and darker colors and lines and objects) decidedly didn't. The art of designing modern spaces lies in the ability to make the space visually appealing (in my case minimal) while still able to function correctly. Too often the designers and their clients forget about the practical aspects. | |
| ▲ | kakacik an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They are awful to even look at, IHMO. Cold, sterile, tells something about people living in such fugly soulless places. Which is fine to be honest, its nice to see clearly the type of person on the other side of the table, no need to dig through empty speech clutter for clues. But impressive it is not. |
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| ▲ | snozolli 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Only the rich can afford to own nothing/exert effort to have empty space without consequence. Reminds me of the reason that grass yards exist: to show the world that one can afford land for the sake of owning it, rather than for growing crops. | | |
| ▲ | pooploop64 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Lawns are for much more than just flexing. It's an outdoor part of your property which is flat and open enough to use for various activities and purposes. I don't know where people get such a cynical idea that this is THE reason anyone has lawns. | | |
| ▲ | jmbwell 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah this is all very regional too. Row houses in London and brownstones in New York or whatever won’t have front lawns as a function of density, but may have back yards or gardens, which may or may not be a function of producing your own food, which is all tied up in different experiences of war, while certainly countryside estates are for form more than function, while post war housing in the midwestern US was in part a build-on-your-lot market with houses literally ordered from a Sears catalog… There’s definitely more to the story and there are myriad factors. | | | |
| ▲ | asdfasvea 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Wouldn't a non-grassy flat and open area serve the same purpose? | | |
| ▲ | blipvert 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not sure that I’d want to lie down with a book on a slab of concrete. |
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| ▲ | throwaway7783 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | A dirt yard is sufficient if it was to show off land. Grass is not required | | |
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| ▲ | Retric 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Travel / multiple homes confuse the issue because nobody spends much time on their 5th house they use less than a month per year, so the decoration is mostly outsourced to 3rd parties. The portion of rich people homes they actually use are often quite cluttered. The simple limitation of needing to walk to a room to use it means spreading out across a huge home gets annoying. Semi public spaces for guests on the other hand can look like hotels because that’s effectively what they are. | | |
| ▲ | bluGill 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Space is a factor too. I toured the mansion one time a few years back because a friend of mine was remodeling it. The master bedroom was as large as my entire house. That's a single bedroom for the two people planned to live there. I saw it while it was still under construction and so completely unlivable and but you could quickly figure out which parts were intended for the people lived there to live in and which parts were semi-public most of the mansion was clearly public spaces where they would have parties. |
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| ▲ | bluegatty 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 'modernism' is a 20th century design concept. | |
| ▲ | yubblegum an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > I am skeptical this is the origin of modern decor. The trend away from ornamentation, toward simplicity, flatness, etc in design goes back several generations and transcends interior design. You should be. Modernism is an ideological design response: the aesthetics of the machine age and utilitarianism. OP's opinion is not based on actual design and architecture history and (ironically) appears to be itself an ideological narrative: a posthoc criticism of Modern (yes with cap M) design which itself has its root in conservative reaction against the (asserted, alleged and possibly true) socialist tendencies of the elite social and design circles that gave birth to Modernism. Note, for example, the 'emotional' appeal to long lived in homes, etc. https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20230103-the-historical-... | |
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| ▲ | smallnix 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Trends, status signalling? | |
| ▲ | throwaway5752 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is a false dichotomy. The modern style is a reaction against a distinct and different design aesthetic from what the parent described. Neoclassical, Gothic Revival, and Rococo are more ornamental, but they not cozy or comfortable in the same way. This being said, the title is accurate to the article but misleading. The subtitle is about "Striped Floors and Flickering LEDs". It isn't modern design, it's specific elements of modern design. I'd suggest that the striped/patterned floors/LED points transcend styles, and would cause issues even in a more ornate/classical design. Style is individual, and I expect the diversities of brains and thinking patterns means that there is no right answer for what style is best for people. The most interesting part of the article wasn't really reflective of style, it was visually crowded environments. They used the example of supermarkets, and that seems distinct from a visually rich style like the grandparent comment's home or Neo Gothic cathedrals. Being in a forest is visually crowded, too, but I'd expect it has the opposite effect the study measured. I think the fractal dimension of the detail, if they correlated it with the degree of distress, would be a factor. | |
| ▲ | pishpash 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ornate and simple alternate back and forth in a reactionary preference cycle in history. We may be in a 'simple' phase but there is a nostalgic backlash happening with pre-digital aesthetics, and as evidenced here. |
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| ▲ | mgfist 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > The article doesn't touch much on why modern decor emerged as it did The theory I subscribe to is a few fold: 1) People like to buy "generic" homes that are easier to renovate/personalize
2) But then they don't end up personalizing, because they're afraid to tank it's market value
3) Thus homes stay boring and generic |
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| ▲ | Insanity 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This resonates with me. I enjoy being at my grandparents’ home. And it’s exactly as you mentioned, if I would describe all the stuff in the living room it’d be called “cluttered”. Yet it feels “homey” and I feel pretty relaxed whenever I sit there to read a book. And then on my side, for the past 15 years I moved to a new place about every 2-3 years. Never really invested in making it feel “homey” because I’m not sure how much space I’d have in the next place I move to. |
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| ▲ | bear141 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I see where you are coming from and I think this is an interesting observation. Especially when talking about companies and people moving apartments every year. I grew up in a house full of the clutter that you describe as comforting, but for me it felt smothering. I recently inherited the house I grew up in and now have it set up much less cluttered. I don’t plan to live anywhere else anytime soon, but for me the lack of clutter and clear spaces are much more comforting. I am definitely not a fan of crazy colors or patterns or bad lighting either though. |
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| ▲ | SoftTalker 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think there's a lot of unappreciated benefits in "staying put." Of course if you're living in a bad situation that might not be true, and it might not be good for your career or for other material reasons, but it can be good for your mental health. My parents owned one house, and we never moved. I grew up there and I still own it. I don't live there currently but every time I am in that house I'm calm, relaxed, and comfortable almost immediately. It's nothing fancy, just a normal ranch house, but it's very familiar and full of memories. |
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| ▲ | alehlopeh 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The article is about office decor, not home decor. While I don't love "modern decor," I don't think offices are meant to feel comforting like a home owned for generations. |
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| ▲ | pishpash 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If anything, offices are likely designed to not feel comfortable so you are forced to focus on your screen and work. Otherwise, rooms were more comfortable than cubicles, cubicles were more comfortable than open benches, open benches will be more comfortable than whatever AI-adjacent abomination surely to come... | | |
| ▲ | skyberrys an hour ago | parent [-] | | Really curious to imagine what these AI-adjacent abominations could be. Some sort of people conveyor belt we have to work on while rotating past other humans to achieve maximum 'collaboration' perhaps? Offices built into semi trucks so we get picked up and crammed together with our laptops and screens? When will it stop! |
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| ▲ | dfc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What design trends can be attributed to people's desire to pick up and move at a moment notice? |
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| ▲ | mike_hock 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The article also doesn't touch on whether visually cluttered "traditional" decor is better for people affected by those conditions. I found the office in the picture quite pleasant to look at. Not comforting and homey but suitable as a work environment. |
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| ▲ | ErroneousBosh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > It's a market response where everyone needs to (or feels the need to) pick up and move at a moment's notice. You see the same thing with cars. People choose to buy (or more commonly lease!) a car for a few years and before they've even decided to buy it they're planning to sell it. This is why there are so many sad grey cars on the road - pick a colour that's easy to sell! Don't get anything too wild, it might not sell! What if you can't sell it because it's red or blue?!!? Don't go too crazy with that very pale blue tinted grey, they might not be able to sell it for as much and you won't get much from the leasing company! There's a guy in my town who has a Porsche 992, it's only a few years old. He bought it as his retirement present to himself when he packed in his job at the start of COVID. It has all the options, and it has custom paint. It is what I can only describe as Budget-Conscious Prosthetic Limb beige. That kind of pinky-beige colour for NHS hearing aid plastic. It cost him 1500 quid to even get it mixed, thousands extra to have it sprayed that colour. "But what if it doesn't sell?" people say to him, "What if people don't like the colour?" He doesn't care, he's going to drive it for the rest of his life. It'll be someone else's problem to sell once he dies. |
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| ▲ | bluGill an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'm told that because so many cars are the ugly gray that cars have color are selling better nowadays. It may be only a minority that want color, but that minority is willing to pay for it and they look at their choices and your car is the only one they can go for. I don't normally care about color myself, but I hate thr color my car is enough that I'm wondering if I should spend the several couple thousand dollars to put a decent coat of paint on it. |
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| ▲ | ericmay 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > It's a market response where everyone needs to (or feels the need to) pick up and move at a moment's notice. Yes, but it's deeper than that. Two broad reasons, though your point here is a good one. 1. We don't, particularly in the west, have the skills, shops/craftsmen, or access to resources to make things like we used to. It's a positive network effect where prices go up, folks don't do the work anymore, and so prices go up, and things get more unaffordable, and so forth until there's only a handful of folks anywhere that can build the furniture, decor, or houses that you allude to. Companies can't make this stuff and as they chase never ending globalized supply chains and increasingly fewer commodities or natural resources they market and sell plainer and plainer things - modernist styles and modernist architecture. With so many people in the world competing for the same products and resources, it's incredibly expensive to build anything "real" or with much detail or thought. So companies just cheap out and create surrogate products which nobody is ever happy with. 2. The changes we see in style can be attributed to changes in politics and civilization. Who we are and what we think of ourselves. It's bad or even politically dangerous to build ornate buildings or purchase expensive or ornate pieces for your home. How could you build a beautiful building when there are people starving?!?! (you see a version of this with rocket companies - how can Jeff Bezos spend his money launching rockets when Social Security is underfunded!!?!?) Any sufficiently famous building or person who liked nice shit was a "colonizer" and "bad person" in some form or because of some argument and then of course over time folks just hide their wealth (stealth wealth, millionaire next door) and we pride ourselves on appearing poor, acting poor, and naturally, we create poor civilizations without much to aspire to. When was the last time you wore a suit and tie? Better yet, who in your town can even make a suit? Who is going to die for strip malls and parking lots? Who wants to invest in their neighborhood when you know instinctively it's just a house and it's not something you will really pass down to your children (they will just sell that suburban home you have). Americans in particular spend thousands annually to travel to countries in Europe for example, and to visit their gardens and nice buildings, which themselves are vestiges of an age when western civilization aspired to more, and why do they only do that instead of investing in their own gardens and making their own nice places for people to visit? We do this of course to some extent - it's big country after all, but those who understand this and why it's important are fewer and further between. |
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| ▲ | michaelchisari 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The first point is solid. The loss of craftsmanship means that the labor cost of those who remain has skyrocketed. That's an irony of devaluing labor is that those who hold on to their craft end up in very high demand. That said, you overestimate how much "colonizer" discourse informs the average suburban home or modern office environment. That discourse isn't even particularly dominant amongst the left (often clowned as "third-worldist", reductionist or class denialism). The average leftists apartment or home has more in common with your great-grandfather's house than stark, modern minimalism. | | |
| ▲ | ericmay 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The "colonizer" rhetoric is just part of it, but it's more so as a piece of the puzzle that shows of an overall change in how we perceive ourselves and how we report on things in the public sphere. It's unquestionable that ostentatious displays of wealth are met with revulsion and derision, therefore we don't show those displays. The downstream impact is that the masses have nothing to aspire to or look up to in this specific context of craftsmanship. Again, when was the last time "you" wore a suit? Was it tailored? Do you only wear it at weddings? Do you buy your clothing from Costco/Kirkland? Do you find yourself in the fast food line at Chik-fil-a or driving across town to Buc-ee's in your Jeep? These kinds of consumerist behaviors are good and accepted. If you tell someone you only eat at tasting menus or high end restaurants or something instead of those being celebrated as good you'll be met with incredulity or even be made fun of "you're so fancy" "ugh if only I could afford that", and then it devolves into mass-market "experiences" and so forth. (As you read the rest of this post remember that I'm critiquing capitalism here as well). Because Wimbledon is ongoing and the ladies championship was today, how many complain about the players being required to wear all-white? How many have complained once the champion's dance was re-established? Do you think it's silly or stupid? You're part of the problem! It's considered classism - but without it, you get sterilization. Reduction to the lowest common denominator. In general, leftist ideologies, so think communism and other sympathies, result in minimalist architecture and decor and art, because grand displays of wealth or even the concept of "rank" with respect to members of society evoke royalty, "white European male", and "let them eat cake". To flaunt your wealth or aspire to be part of a country club or to invent new social organizations and elite activities is to be on the receiving end of the social hammer. You can't have nice stuff because that goes against the doctrine. I'm painting in broad strokes here, but I think this is accurate. It's no accident that all of the best buildings were built under royalist regimes, monarchies, and more. And because of the disgust and vitriol and crabs pulling other crabs down as they try to escape the bucket, now we are just left with wealthy losers who have forgotten their noblesse oblige. > That discourse isn't even particularly dominant amongst the left (often clowned as "third-worldist", reductionist or class denialism). I think this is just flatly false. You've probably just seen it so much and it has become so common to you that you've become less sensitive to it. Leftists in particular are very in-tune with class warfare. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said, and I'm paraphrasing, culture wars are a distraction from the real war, class war. I see stuff like this all the time: https://www.amazon.com/American-Magnet-War-Class-Text/dp/B09... . |
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