| ▲ | arjie 5 hours ago |
| > We saw in a movie how motorcycles can jump over bridges. We used
AI to learn how to do this. We gave it information, like what
motorcycles we use and the distance we need to jump and so on and it
gave us steps on what we have to do. We practiced a lot and kept
asking questions. We dug holes and filled them with broken glass and
fire to practice. 18 of us died in the process. Eight of us managed to do
it. The next time we attacked, we could jump. Now listen, I'm not saying we need to give these guys more AI, but it clearly isn't yielding bad outcomes for us here. "You're absolutely correct! For it to be a good practice ground you need to fill the trenches with broken glass and light the whole thing on fire" |
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| ▲ | solid_fuel 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > We dug holes and filled them with broken glass and fire to practice. 18 of us died in the process. Is it providing material aid to terrorists to point out that maybe a hole filled with water would have been a better practice environment? |
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| ▲ | throwup238 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The water damage would ruin the motorcycles. They can always get more jumpers. The hard part is motivating them! | |
| ▲ | BeetleB 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I assume you're asking in jest, but having experience in the matter: Any information you give to someone/group, where you know or have good reason to believe it will be used for terrorism purposes (including training), does put you liable for providing material aid to terrorists. | |
| ▲ | uniclaude 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This comment will definitely get you on a list somewhere. Either the CIA or my favorite comments on hn, maybe both. | |
| ▲ | bombcar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Using water is like assuming the testing environment and production are the same. | | |
| ▲ | ajmurmann an hour ago | parent [-] | | I always make sure that a test failure carries the same financial loss as a production outage. Otherwise engineers just won't try hard enough. |
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| ▲ | blitzar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I suddenly feel so much more comfortable with the US "warfighters" using LLMs for everything. | |
| ▲ | bijowo1676 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | US Congressman Scott Perry said that USA has financed Boko Haram and other similar groups (remember how Pentagon and CIA independently backed different terrorist groups in Syria, that even fought each other?) https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/worl... | | |
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| ▲ | notahacker 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Not gonna lie, I'd rather attack with 26 fighters that haven't survived lots of jump attempts than 8 who are much more confident in their motorbike stunt riding but presumably still aren't bulletproof. But maybe they could ask Claude how to train themselves to resist bullets as well? |
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| ▲ | sixhobbits 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This is a scene in Catch22 IIRC where they decide to stop training the soldiers who need to parachute behind enemy lines because the fatality rate of training was so high that mathematically it made more sense to send in untrained soldiers. | | |
| ▲ | selimthegrim 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | This also reminds me of a offhanded remark in a SsethTzeentach review where he criticizes the Titanic passengers for not having the decency to be ballast and plug the hole with their own bodies |
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| ▲ | stymaar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > But maybe they could ask Claude how to train themselves to resist bullets as well? “unfortunately, my seven remaining comrades died in the process and I can't train anymore since there's no one to shoot at me”. | |
| ▲ | antonymoose 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Well that’s easy, start shooting yourself in the foot with .22 until you develop a tolerance and bump up to .380! | |
| ▲ | misnome 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That's how you get Gun Kata | |
| ▲ | 27183 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > maybe they could ask Claude how to train themselves to resist bullets as well? Practice makes perfect! | | |
| ▲ | IsTom 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | You start with .22 and build up resistance from there. | | |
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| ▲ | johnsmith1840 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If anything the leadership gave BS answers to the journalist for the exact reaction HN is portraying right now. "They're so dumb AI is harmless" is a danerous take when the people in charge are often times more educated than an average westener. They also are decent at propoganda (you have certainly consumed pumped or direct propoganda from terrorist orgs). Their leaders are often university grads from the west. It is smart (enough) people leading delusional farmers but the article is clear that the farmers are just given AI commands from the leadership. There's still strong asymetry occuring here that more funded orgs have the better AI but if AI flattens and opensource catches up it's gonna be a real interesting world where every terrorist also has a team of advanced weapon engineers and tacticians available. |
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| ▲ | Legend2440 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Honestly this sounds so outlandish that it makes me skeptical of the whole thing. They didn't stop after the first guy died? Or the tenth? Guy #11 just looked at the pile of corpses and was like, hell yeah I'm gonna try next? And where's the video? Terrorist groups love propaganda footage, if they were doing motorcycle stunts like Evel Knievel they'd be bragging about it everywhere. |
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| ▲ | woadwarrior01 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If they were wary of dying, they wouldn't be in the business of terrorism in the first place. Also, they almost certainly believe in a better afterlife. Reminds of the old animated short: Saga of Bjorn[1]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV5w262XvCU | | |
| ▲ | petilon 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Surely even terrorists want to die for a cause, not during practice. | | |
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| ▲ | rightbyte 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah this didn't happen. If someone is cracy enough to practice with holes filled with glass on fire why trust them at all about being cracy in the first place? | | |
| ▲ | evan_ 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | where'd they get so much broken glass that it would fill a hole anyway? They just have that much glass on hand? | | |
| ▲ | lukan an hour ago | parent [-] | | Erm, if you have 18 guys to spend on training, you also have some empty bottles or access to a place where there are more empty bottles. Whether crazy people are actually crazy enough to literally do what a LLM gave them as a action sequence from movie inspiration - I have no idea. But I doubt it here. |
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| ▲ | brookst 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | To be fair, guy #11 was a lot better at prompting | |
| ▲ | dylan604 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Guy #11 just looked at the pile of corpses and was like, hell yeah I'm gonna try next? Have you never seen a kung-fu movie? Of course that's what happens when a large group attack a superior solitary opponent. | |
| ▲ | Pay08 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Honestly, Boko Haram is in general just bad at propaganda and mostly confines said propaganda to Nigeria. |
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| ▲ | user_7832 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Nobody tell them that there are models that work much better! |
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| ▲ | user_7832 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | But on a much more serious note, the violating/breaking of the guardrails when making bombs is terrible. I'd have called it unforgivable, but LLMs are a tough beast to tame in the best of situations... and I'm not really sure if chatgpt ever deserved to be forgived. It's also ironic that Fable hits guardrails for nothing, and a literal terrorist group is making bombs and merrily skipping over guardrails. | | |
| ▲ | gambiting 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I feel like I'm missing something though. You can open LM Studio right now and download any model with "heretic" or "uncensored" in the name and it will happily do anything you want with no restrictions whatsoever. What's the point of trying to jailbreak ChatGPT? Is it that much better if all you want is just some instructions to make bombs or whatever? (admittedly - I have no idea if these instructions are actually worth anything, but the models will not object to any question) | | |
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| ▲ | christkv 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Truly very very special terrorists. No wonder other terror groups steer clear of them. Must be all the wolf cola they consume. |
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| ▲ | bamboozled 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| AI, at least llms , are really really horrible at basic arithmetic |
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| ▲ | Barbing 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Some’ve been employing python for math by default for a year or so right? |
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| ▲ | jihadjihad 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| And 60 years ago we thought Steve McQueen was the shit. |
