I just installed this. I am very confused. I no longer have a Codex app on my computer. ChatGPT is now Codex.

But what happened to ChatGPT? Where am I supposed to casually chat?

Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing. Can someone from the OpenAI team clarify the difference btwn the modes? Does chatgpt work have more business-y related plugins turned on by default?

Edit: So it seems like the only place you can actually chat with chatgpt is in an awkward homeless nested window. idk. The chatgpt interface wasn't great (desperately needed artifacts), but I still used it a lot. I can't see this change going well with a lot of the casual users.

Edit2: In their awkward homeless nested chat mode, you cannot even edit past messages. this is a mess, why was the team so zealous to pull the switch on unification in this state? guessing there was internal pressure to juice codex's growth but, based on what im seeing, they did it by torching chatgpt?

Edit 3: Ok so it seems like ChatGPT is still around, but renamed to "ChatGPT Classic". Seems like it wont be long for this world because there's no place to download ChatGPT Classic should you choose to uninstall it. The dmg at https://chatgpt.com/download/ only contains the new ChatGPT.

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steve1977 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It really is a mess. An hour or so ago, the download for macOS was called ChatGPT.dmg. However the app in there was still called Codex. But it installed ChatGPT.

But it seems to be fixed now.

Also, subtitling Work with "For getting work done" and Codex with "For developers" is a bit aggressive towards developers ;)

	▲	oaxacaoaxaca 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Ha! Feeling very attacked.

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LUmBULtERA 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing.

This is the weirdest thing. It's completely unclear even if I was using the app for "work" rather than "coding" why I wouldn't just use the "Codex" option. Why even bother toggling? Can Codex actually not do any of the things in "Work"?

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super256 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The old ChatGPT is now ChatGPT Classic. Codex is now ChatGPT.

There is a funny interaction in the Microsoft store, where ChatGPT turns into Codex when you click on it: https://f003.backblazeb2.com/file/sharexxx/ShareX/2026/07/Ap...

(Also GG @ MSFT for opening a nag about Windows Hello twice while I wanted to stop the recording.)

	▲	philistine 12 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The best of Microsoft's naming schemes, now coming to your LLM chatbot.
	▲	steve1977 12 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I had a similar effect on macOS.

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afruitpie an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sad, I liked that ChatGPT had a native app on macOS. I don’t understand why OpenAI and Anthropic have to rely on vending universal apps when their whole MO is code being dirt cheap.

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postalcoder an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Same. I don't see why they thought this was a good move.

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mysterydip an hour ago | parent [-]

maybe they asked chatgpt about it :)

	▲	moomoo11 25 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You’re absolutely right and your solution is actually a better implementation.

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fassssst 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

AppKit and SwiftUI and WinUI are all meh for rendering lots of text. Chromium is quite good at it.

Plus they have lots of embedded web content these days and managing webviews is a relative pain vs it all being one webview

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egorfine an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have updated Codex and it's now ChatGPT. And the chat in Codex is badly broken and doesn't support the one feature I use in almost every chat.

Good job.

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john_strinlai 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>And the chat in Codex is badly broken and doesn't support the one feature I use in almost every chat.

what is badly broken about it, and what feature does it not support? im a pretty casual user, so i guess i havent noticed this bad breakage.

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egorfine 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

Everything. The current implementation is unusable. If you see differently then probably you are looking at Codex chats, not chats.

	▲	john_strinlai 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		whether i use the new "chat" button that just appeared after the update, or use the familiar chat underneath the "projects" heading, everything appears to be working just fine. (i am using "ChatGPT Work" not "ChatGPT Codex") is there a 3rd chats somewhere that i am missing?

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naiv 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

which feature?

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egorfine 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

Temporary chats.

	▲	steve1977 11 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Well, at least for me, they are not broken. They are gone.

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kristianc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I just installed this. I am very confused. I no longer have a Codex app on my computer. ChatGPT is now Codex.

I ... hope we have an option for opting out of this? Otherwise I'm back on T3 Code.

	▲	TechRemarker 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Seems the old ChatGPT is still on computer but renamed ChatGPT Classic (no longer downloadable), so clearly being deprecated. But just don't understand how the whole CHATGPT Chat History Chat feature is essentially gone other than seeing at the past 3 or 4 in a tiny popup window. Glad everyone is as confused as I am, so hopefully an announcement from ChatGPT clarifying all this.

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smoe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The only difference I can see is that the controls for local/remote, branch, and worktrees disappear, and instead it shows office suite plugins. I would presume it affects the system prompt in the background?

Very confusing. But I do find it potentially interesting to treat general office work no differently from coding, which is something I had already been using Codex for in many ways before today

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cush 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just downloaded the new dmg and it's the old chatGPT. Maybe they are listening?

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bathory an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

On Windows, ChatGPT is now known as ChatGPT Classic, and Codex is now known as ChatGPT (Beta).

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dominotw an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the idea is that there should be no difference between 'casual chat' and 'serious chat'. why not chat in codex

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postalcoder an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Going to repost my comment from below:

Codex creates a new folder in `~/Documents` in iCloud drive/OneDrive for every single thread you make. Furthermore, these threads are also polluted with your global AGENTS.md file, as well as all other developer_instructions that are injected by the harness.

I want my chats isolated from work contexts.

	▲	hirvi74 35 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Reading your observation only reinforces my convictions to never use these tools outside of a containerized environment.

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HDThoreaun an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Does codex not have a pre prompt about being a coding agent like claude code does?

	▲	dominotw an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I think coding models and harness are good/better at general questions and simple problems. something about coding being general format to think.

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paxys 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s all ChatGPT under the hood. Even though it says Work or Codex or whatever you can just ask it whatever you want, and it will work.

	▲	postalcoder an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> Even though it says Work or Codex or whatever you can just ask it whatever you want, and it will work. No it's not. Codex creates a new folder in `~/Documents` in iCloud drive/OneDrive for every single thread you make. Furthermore, these threads are also polluted with your global AGENTS.md file, as well as all other developer_instructions that are injected by the harness. I want my chat isolated from work contexts.