| ▲ | tbomb 4 hours ago |
| How popular is Grok compared to other companies models for SWE tasks? I almost never hear it talked about against OpenAI's or Anthropic's products |
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| ▲ | andy99 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Because of the of the political stuff, they have a bad reputation I think and are taken less seriously (I feel this way). They have an opportunity imo to break free from that and just not do the gatekeeping / condescension that the other providers are starting, and become more mainstream. |
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| ▲ | minimaxir 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Even without the politics, Elon has shown that he will weaponize his platforms against people/companies he personally doesn't like (e.g. specific bans/demotions to external sites like Substack and Bluesky). Using Grok is therefore a supply chain risk and it's not nearly good enough to offset that risk. | | |
| ▲ | dimgl 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | As opposed to what was happening before, on Twitter? | |
| ▲ | alex1138 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I do just want to focus on the 'even without the politics' asterisk though because sometimes there is a risk people think everyone on x side (x meaning 'a given side', not x.com) is wrong You can claim Elon bought x as some sort of power trip. Fine. Willing to entertain it, I have no dog in the fight. I'm not a member of the Elon fan club. And yet Twitter (under Dorsey though I don't think he was involved) was banning tons of people under guises of 'misinfo' that wasn't misinfo | | |
| ▲ | kevinh 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Pre-Musk twitter isn't the comparison point here. Anthropic/Google are. |
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| ▲ | vlian2088 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Americans are 4% of the world's population, and even among those 4% at least half don't give a shit. the rest of us give even less of a shit, we don't have the luxury to be principled. | |
| ▲ | Tadpole9181 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | To be frank, I will never use Grok as long as it's remotely affiliated with or under the influence of Elon Musk or his ilk. | |
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| ▲ | ETH_start 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Please don't comment like this on Hacker News | | |
| ▲ | drivingmenuts 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | We should avoid reminding people that the man who owns Grok is a racist? Everyone here treats him like he's some sort of flawless deity, completely ignoring his racist past and present. I refuse to and I will use every limited opportunity I have to remind people of that, until I cannot, or until HN goes full Nazi bar. | | |
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| ▲ | minimaxir 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You can very roughly proxy popularity of close-sourced models through OpenRouter token throughput. Grok has an order of magnitude less OpenRouter usage than Claude, GPT, even Gemini. |
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| ▲ | small_model 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They were missing a harness like Claude Code or Codex (terminal). However they recently released Grok Build, which is probably the fasted I've used, in terms of responsiveness, but didn't have a model at Opus 4.7/8 level. The thing is if they add 4.5 to Grok Build and keep improving the harness I think it can compete (cheaper and faster). |
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| ▲ | everfrustrated 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I've been using Grok Build over the last couple weeks. It's actually a very good CLI.
The Grok Build 0.1 model isn't great but can also use Composer 2.5 which is excellent.
Well worth trying. |
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| ▲ | redox99 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Completely irrelevant, which was expected considering their previous models were vastly outclassed by other models at SWE. This is the first grok model that seems actually pretty competitive at SWE. |
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| ▲ | khurs 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wasn't, which is why they purchased Cursor. |
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| ▲ | bigyabai 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If they were a frontier lab, you'd know. |
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| ▲ | ls612 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They had two big substantive flaws on top of the political stuff. Aside from a brief window last summer Grok has been behind the curve for coding, and before the Cursor acquisition they didn’t have a harness. Now they have an Opus tier model and a real harness they have at a minimum the opportunity to undercut the competition on price. And with the 5T and 10T models being trained on Colossus 2 they have the possibility to leap ahead. |
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| ▲ | pelotron 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No one's made a MechaHitler joke yet? |
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| ▲ | postflopclarity 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | Pedro_Ribeiro 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What kind of comment is this? Such bad faith and adding nothing to the discussion. | | | |
| ▲ | unsupp0rted 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | In addition to "nonconsenual porn", it's far superior to almost any (actually any?) open source LLM | | |
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