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stackghost 3 hours ago

Who is "they"?

What is their motive for wanting to "force people out of cars"?

slopinthebag 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The “green movement” and “the environment” but mostly a desire for control. Why should people be able to own private property like cars, we should all be using government owned means of transportation in our new socialist utopia.

GuinansEyebrows 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"the environment" wants to "force people out of cars"? are you hearing yourself?

wizzwizz4 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who desires the control? Can you name a member of this nebulous conspiracy? Nobody I've spoken to about this topic has been able to.

slopinthebag 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t need to know the names of the various lawmakers, lawyers, and politicians to know that they exist and to see the effects of their work. You’re being willfully blind here.

ryandrake an hour ago | parent [-]

"Trust me bro, I can't point to them but they exist" is also all the evidence we have of Aliens, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

StanislavPetrov 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Who desires the control? Can you name a member of this nebulous conspiracy?

Every level of government, the World Economic Forum and every other organization that seeks to mandate digital currencies, mandate digital IDs, impose "chat control" and eliminate all privacy. You have to have your head buried deep, deep in the sand to think this is some sort of conspiracy. It is all happening right out in the open.

wizzwizz4 33 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Nobody I've spoken to who's name-dropped the World Economic Form in this context knows what the WEF is. (To be fair, neither did I, to begin with – but I wasn't making claims about it.)

stackghost 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>[seeking to] mandate digital currencies, mandate digital IDs, impose "chat control" and eliminate all privacy.

None of this has anything to do with a purported green movement that seeks to end private ownership of cars. Modern cars are easy to track, for starters.

stackghost 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Why should people be able to own private property like cars, we should all be using government owned means of transportation in our new socialist utopia.

Given that electric vehicles including cars, busses and trains all exist, can you explain what relationship exists between the notion of private property ownership (notably cars) and "the green movement"? It is not clear to me why a global environmentalist cabal would seek to end private ownership of electric cars, which have more or less the same drawbacks as electric busses or trains.

Furthermore:

As far as I can tell, the following groups are both wealthy and powerful, and have a financial interest in opposing the end of fossil fuels and/or the end of private property:

- big oil

- coal

- auto manufacturers

- major banks (because they finance loans, including auto loans)

- the governments of oil-rich nations like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Venezuela, Canada (Alberta, mostly), Russia, Iran, etc.

Can you also explain where the "green movement" is getting its funding and lobbying to not only resist but (according to you) completely overcome the influence of the above groups?