Why does their header image feature multiple furries, one at each station? One making a feature request, another presumably approving a pull request, and a third ostensibly submitting an app?

Is the Flipper Zero community tightly intertwined with the furry community? Is this a connection I've missed?

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qwery 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The drawing including a couple of anthropomorphised animal characters hardly seems surprising or even noteworthy. The project/product has always had a heavy emphasis on being "fun", including its dolphin mascot/theming/naming.

From the home page[0]:

> Flipper Zero is a tiny piece of hardware with a curious personality of a cyber-dolphin.

One assumes that that "curious personality", the creator's attitude and the styling/presentation of the product/project is part of the reason for the success of the product.

The "furries" (as you call them) don't seem like the primary focus focus of the picture anyway -- there's a wide variety of characters doing a bunch of stuff in the drawing. There's also a dog, a shady-looking person stick up a poster, someone with pink hair, a cyber-dolphin, and I think there might even be more than two genders being represented.

Would there be a problem if the Flipper Zero community was "intertwined with the furry community"?

[0] https://flipper.net/

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dimbletimbers 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s definitely a meme if nothing else that the cybersecurity community has a distribution of furries that would not reflect the general population’s.

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nicce 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There is even a saying that furries run the internet.

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rebolek 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is there some study to explain why? Do they feel more safer pretending to be human sized...furry animal?

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Gigachad 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I don't have a study, but I became a furry after seeing them in tech spaces all the time while I was learning to program.

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kstrauser 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My hypothesis, based purely on personal experience and what friends have told me. I am not a furry.

I feel like infosec was one of the earliest "no one cares who you are if you have skills" user groups. Online, you were just a handle. Man, woman, both, neither, no one knew until if/when you met up IRL. Until then, all you had was your reputation. I think that led to people having a pretty good idea about the attitudes of people they were talking to online, staying away from people who were going to be jerks about identity or pastimes, and a lot of conversations like "General Mayhem is weird, but he's our weird, so no one mentions that fox tail he wears everywhere."

Over time, that was a positive feedback loop: people who weren't cookiecutter felt safer around infosec folks than most other crowds. => That increased the "weird density" of infosec meetups. => People who don't like being around uncommon appearance or behavior stayed away from infosec meetups. => Those meets became safer for uncommon folks. => Repeat.

I don't know if that's right, but again, that's what friends have expressed to me before. It seems plausible.

Note: When I say weird, I mean it affectionately. I've never met anyone in infosec who didn't have some quirk not far below the surface. Frankly, I love that. And because of that, and the virtuous circle I described, I've never had one single person in infosec confess to me that they weren't OK with gay or trans or furries or other type of behavior/identity/etc. I'm a straight white middle class dude, and unfortunately I have had people confess such things to me in other circles, mistakenly assuming that since I was in their demographic, I'd agree with them or at least be OK with it.

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Aachen an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Man, woman, both, neither, no one knew until if/when you met up IRL.

And sometimes not even then! Which is fine because indeed, who cares :)

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cybrexalpha 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The visibility is a huge part of it. It signals "it's okay to be yourself here" when most professional life, even in tech, is dominated by keeping up "professional" appearances.

	▲	kstrauser an hour ago \| parent [-]
		That makes sense. And I do strongly believe in the "virtuous circle" bit: people who aren't OK with others being themselves tend not to feel comfortable at, or get invited back to, events. That would make it more comfortable for the next event's attendees, making it less pleasant for the remaining pains in the necks, and so on. I've participated in conversations like: Q: Why do rightwing websites keep getting hacked? A: Because none of the best infosec people want to work where their friends wouldn't be welcome.

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post-it an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Closest they can get to piloting a mech.

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greggsy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would we need a study? It’s just escapism.

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Retr0id 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not? The flipper mascot is already an anthropomorphic dolphin.

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mplewis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep! Furries are represented strongly in cybersecurity.

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ButlerianJihad an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

BSD has always been the gayest OS, though

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quietsegfault 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cause they like animals or the art style?

	▲	UqWBcuFx6NV4r an hour ago \| parent [-]
		OK, so they’re furries. I love animals. I’ve never once thought: “these humans in this picture should be replaced with anthropomorphised animals”. This is peak “I read it for the articles”.

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iririririr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

what does it matter to you? honest question. would that impact your technical assessment somehow? do you just want in on some probable joke?

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UqWBcuFx6NV4r an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Hi. Last I checked, one of the Hacker News rules isn’t “only have serious discussions regarding technical assessments. Failure to comply hereby entitles random people to fly off the handle and get very defensive”.

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hosel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not OP, but I think furries are weird. You can do whatever you want, but I’ve never met a furry I liked. They also insert their weird fetish into everything they touch.

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CursedSilicon 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ah, the "I don't hate the gays I just wish they'd keep that at home!"

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thin_carapace an hour ago | parent [-]

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embedding-shape an hour ago | parent [-]

> why is it okay for sex fetishists to act out sex fetishes in public around kids?

I don't think that's what furries generally do, nor homosexuals for that part, unless you count holding hands or kissing each other on the mouth as "acting out sex fetishes in public"? I don't think I've seen that even once, but living in a "party city", I've more than once seen drunk heterosexual couples having sex in the streets and in the metro.

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thin_carapace an hour ago | parent [-]

people get in those animal suits expressly for sexual reasons whether those reasons are occurring now or later. why is it okay to do that in front of kids?

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embedding-shape 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Being in an animal suit is "act out sex fetishes in public" because that same suit might be used later in connection with sexual activities? Doesn't that make every heterosexual couples clothes also "acting out sex fetishes in public" somehow then?

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koolala 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Why do you think this has anything to do with the article? No one needs to endulge your bigotry.

	▲	thin_carapace 17 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		genuinely curious as to what makes people think it's okay to publicly engage in behaviour directly linked to a sexual fetish which links to the article as per the grandparent comment. I specified around the kids because furries near me go out of their way to have their parties exactly where kids have their parties. nobody has to respond to me, that's true. nobody has to call me names either yet here you are.

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koolala 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you share biggoted opinions when people didn't ask you, you don't seem very likable so it might specifically be a you thing.

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DaSHacka 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

bigoted = perform kink fursuit play in areas children aren't present in, please.

if you call that ""bigoted"", you're gonna hate what the majority of people would self-identify as.

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Gigachad 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

If you see the picture in the article and think it's a kink image then that says more about you than anything.

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DaSHacka 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

I was replying to GP's assertion more so than just the content in the post itself.

For minor references like the image in the OP post it's whatever. I personally find furry art/culture repugnant, but I know plenty of people feel the same way about other things I like (and of which I insert references to in my projects) so I can't exactly get mad about it.

Still don't agree with the overall concerning trend towards exposing kids to (deviant) sexual material from a young age though, and doubly so that anyone who feels the same is a 'bigot'.

First time I saw a dude on all fours with nothing but boxers, a leather bondage dog mask, and a leash being held by his partner at PRIDE while children came up to pet him was jarring, to say the least.

	▲	Gigachad 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Context is everything though. I've met people who believe every flipper zero owner is criminal scum using it to steal cars or break in to houses. When the reality is it's a toy radio for the majority of users. It's the same for everything. Most furry content has nothing sexual about it, the image in the article is entirely appropriate. >saw a dude on all fours with nothing but boxers, a leather bondage dog mask For what it's worth, as a furry I'm also very much not in favor of these people, but they are an entirely different group that doesn't have much to do with furries at all despite superficial similarities. Furries can no more control these people than developers and tinkerers can stop car thieves abusing RF bugs.

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mplewis 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I guarantee you've met a furry and not known it.

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dude250711 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Is the Flipper Zero community tightly intertwined with the furry community?

That is my conclusion. They are raising much-needed awareness about that underrepresented group.

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doublerabbit 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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CursedSilicon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

On behalf of other furries. I'm sorry for the person you chose to be

I hope you can find joy in this world

	▲	doublerabbit 23 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Flagged again. > Whats is that supposed to mean? If you are, you know the fandom. Some seek closure. The fandom is stereotypical. I never fit in school, was bullied, fell in to a class of misfits who didn't get a chance in life. If it works for you fine, but don't give me that condescending bull. The furry fandom is a sex cult at this point. Furries don't do anything to make a positive light of themselves and then laugh at the toxic they receive and turn a blind eye to the extremes while continuing the same toxic disgusting behaviour. And don't you dare blame austism or Aspergers on that one. They know better. I walked out, dug myself out of the hole that I fell in to and will never return. The fandom is cesspit regardless if you take sympathy in the folk who are mixed in the brain department. I'd rather be a misfit alone than be part of that community.
	▲	doublerabbit 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
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doublerabbit an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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