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neobrain 2 hours ago

Yes, this had been temporarily permitted until recently, and AFAIK they continue doing so illegally at the moment.

flumpcakes an hour ago | parent [-]

Why is it currently illegal? If I have a service that let's users communicate, why is it illegal to look through those communications? (especially after they've signed my 400 page EULA). It would make moderation impossible otherwise.

Or are we saying this is being used for something specific that happens to be illegal?

alwa 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Privacy laws (2020), which aim to reassert people’s control over their private correspondence.

Moderation had continued under the terms of an exemption, which expired. Chat Control 2.0 would have mooted it; CC2 didn’t pass (nice job all!); so they’re maneuvering to extend the status quo.

To the “impossible,” though: I vaguely remember, many years ago, reading through pretty cool research about content-agnostic approaches to moderation at scale. Many of which, IIRC, informed WhatsApp’s approach. They seemed to focus on damping the social dynamics of content that ended up being inflammatory, malicious, or extractive.

Things like restricting the number of times any specific message could be forwarded, or constraining the size of audience that somebody could address with malicious messages, or network analysis overlaid on messages that recipients voluntarily flagged for review. (And in WhatsApp’s case, segregating explicitly commercial speech in “business accounts” outside the e2e veil.)

I’m sure this is an entire field of study that I’m doing no justice, but I’d welcome any entry points to the current literature!

a2128 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why should you have any right to look through everyone's private communications? Nobody really has any choice to reject your EULA if they want to stay in contact with someone on your service. I could force you to sign a ToS that includes "By using our service you owe us $10 million and agree to donate your kidney to our CEO" in order to reach your overseas grandma, but that doesn't mean it's actually enforceable or legal...

logifail 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It would make moderation impossible otherwise.

Why would you need to moderate private messages between users?

rvnx a minute ago | parent [-]

Protect the kids bla bla bla...

Always the same political excuse

NooneAtAll3 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the opposite question - why is it legal and was made legal?

it's unconstitutional in most places to read letters - same thing should be applied to other form of communication as well

masfuerte an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Because the EU passed a law making it illegal and the temporary exemption recently expired.