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Mouse: Precision Editing Tools for AI Coding Agents(hic-ai.com)
32 points by handfuloflight 4 hours ago | 37 comments
alex7o a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

I didn't want to mock them but are these guys for real:

``` Instead of:

    "Update the checklist to mark items 1.2, 1.4, and 1.5 as done."
Try:

    "Mark items 1.2, 1.4, and 1.5 as complete in the checklist. Only insert an x in each checkbox. Do not copy or replace any of the item descriptions."
```

There is not universe in which this would make agents more efficient - and who is prompting their agents like that in the first place?

I also asked glm to extract all the tools and tell me how they work roughly and nothing interesting really just slop:

``` The server exposes exactly 11 tools (verified via the xa whitelist at L16918, not the larger Eo metadata map which contains ~24 tool definitions — most are dead/legacy): - 6 read/meta: read_first_n_lines, read_last_n_lines, read_lines, jump_to_line_n, find_in_file, get_file_metadata - 3 edit/control: quick_edit (6 ops: insert/delete/replace/replace_range/for_lines/adjust), batch_quick_edit (atomic, always-staged, max 500 ops, multi-file), save_changes, cancel_changes - 1 always-on: license_status Notable design choices: - Coordinate-based addressing (line/char/rect) instead of content-echo — saves tokens - Staging model: edits go to an in-memory shadow, save_changes is the only disk mutation - The rect + move "click-and-drag" columnar editor (v0.9.7) is the genuinely novel bit - ReDoS static analyser (~700 lines) protects find_in_file ```

sfvisser 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why does “patent pending” almost automatically sounds like it’s going to be an underwhelming technology.

embedding-shape an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Because most of the people rushing to get patents are money-horny people, not people who believe they truly are about to change the world, so it's a great signal that this is yet another idea from money-horny people.

mathisfun123 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because a provisional patent is trivial to get and meaningless.

_andrei_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

claude invent me revolutionary text editing method for agents and write paper, must make me big money i patent

fmbb 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

make no mistakes

helloplanets an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Both conditions used GitHub Copilot (Claude Sonnet 4.5 or Haiku 4.5, depending on study) running in VS Code within isolated Docker containers. The only difference was Mouse tool availability. (https://hic-ai.com/papers/mouse-paper-v13.pdf)

Haiku/Sonnet 4.5 on GitHub Copilot is not a valid comparison whatsoever.

You need to benchmark against Claude Code running Opus. I mean, being revolutionary is a big claim to fame.

handfuloflight an hour ago | parent [-]

I guess this is what is meant by AI psychosis?

helloplanets 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

Not at all. This looks just like someone trying to make a quick buck, hyping their product up with bad benchmarks.

handfuloflight 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

You don't think there's some LLM behind the scenes deeply encouraging them to pursue this as revolutionary, worthy of patent, etc?

thehamkercat 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Would've resulted in a positive response from people if you just did your work and didn't brag about your "patent pending" stuff

WithinReason 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Page generated by Gemini I would guess

ssivark 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I doubt they're the first solution to use coordinate based editing, or even the best one right now.

Eg: Check out hash-anchored editing. The first place where I recall seeing this was the oh-my-pi coding agent, but I wouldn't be surprised if the idea originated earlier/elsewhere.

I wonder whether CRDTs could be a good solution for multiple agents editing the same codebase in parallel.

jonplackett an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Someone explain how the HN algorithm has put this on the front page

handfuloflight an hour ago | parent | next [-]

To mock it, I guess. I found it on a comment here on HN, by the creator of it.

defrost an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

At a guess:

- No "bad history" from submitter.

- No detected "obvious slop" signs

- Relatively (near zero) few comments during first hour, during which time it received steady, unclustered, unique upvotes.

- No actual mod took a look and weighted it either way

HN algo weights against rapid fire comment trees (sign of "controversy / chat" rather than thoughtful content (sort of)), obvious bot activity, upvotes from sketchy sources, etc - other than that submissions are pretty much bound for front page if they get a rate of organic votes.

piterrro 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So I’ll have to buy a license for using my mouse now?

blooalien 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> "So I’ll have to buy a license for using my mouse now?"

You'll have to rent a license to use their mouse.

SturgeonsLaw an hour ago | parent [-]

The most baffling thing is that this is not (as I had assumed) about giving agents control of a mouse cursor, instead it's finer-grained text editing skills.

The word mouse has had an established meaning in computing for over half a century, so it seems like an odd term to lay claim to for something so unrelated.

handfuloflight 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

Cursor was taken.

conception 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In the same realm to compare to https://www.morphllm.com/products/fastapply

sudo_cowsay 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I hope this isn't trying to be very serious.

jonplackett an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I was waiting for the punchline, but it never came

ktallett 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As others have said, text editing isn't patentable, and this does not have anything that is patent worthy. However I suspect this is more someone who has no clue what the difference between patent, copyright, and IP is. Was this whole thing vibe coded btw?

croes 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> 14-day free trial

> patent pending

Guess what won’t get widely adopted

maxignol an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess the technology used here must be ground-breaking lol

echelon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> patent-pending

Instant turn off.

Boss0565 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

corniest shit ive ever seen

n0on3 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“the most powerful AI agent file-editing tool in the world […] patent-pending”… tl;dr: turn tool calls into more structured loops, give it some fancy name and slop about it https://hic-ai.com/blog/tool-response-engineering

Good luck with that

N_Lens 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Slop me up Scotty!

quotemstr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Patent pending? On what?

> insert a line, delete a range, replace a character, edit a column

The ed(1) command set 50 years old. I doubt it's patentable. These guys are far from the first to apply fine-grained text editing to LLM toolsets. I've been teaching models to do it for years. Hell, models want to use sed and awk so much that you have to hold them back.

I'm so repulsed by the idea that these guys think they can fence off a slice of the ancient commons, claim they discovered it, and charge $15/month to access it that I want nothing to do with them and will go to the mattresses to make sure they can't. Nobody owns text editing, not even when it's an AI doing it.

Mouse: sincerely, fuck you

blooalien 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> "I've been teaching models to do it for years. Hell, models want to use sed and awk so much that you have to hold them back."

Yeah, I been givin' Qwen a "toolchain" containing `sed`,`awk`,`rg`, and `git` in a "sandbox" directory for playin' around with text editing lately. Havin' a ton of fun dinkin' around with Ollama, Python, and Qwen. Don't need much more'n that to get yerself into all kinda trouble. ;)

Qwen and Gemma make a real fine pair with a bit of Python "glue" too. Gemma's real good with image data (classifying and describing, tagging, title-ing, extracting and translating text, etc) and Qwen's better at code related stuff, so... Teamwork, yay! \o/ :)

rossant 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Pretty sure this website is satire.

quotemstr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not sure what would make you think that.

https://hic-ai.com/papers/mouse-paper-v13.pdf seems like an awfully lot of trouble to go through for a joke that isn't even funny.

HIC AI is a Delaware corporation, registration number 10476082, incorporated 1/16/2026.

blooalien 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, and they have a Discord channel, and a GitHub repo, and all that junk too. Awful lotta trouble to go to for attempted joke/satire. More likely a vibe-slop scam-corp tryin'a cash in on the AI hype-train; feels like it from what I've read on their site and GitHub thus far anywho.

blooalien 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> "Pretty sure this website is satire."

Pretty sure they think it's "real", but yeah, nope. Wouldn't touch this with a fifty foot pole.

N_Lens 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

HN? I agree!