These companies(at least one of them) seem lead by idiots(Hint:his name is Dario) so I wouldn’t be surprised to have multiple wtf moment if you were to see how they treat our data…Let’s just start pushing for opening up AI models because they are too dangerous behind paid walls. That would be a great regulation.

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minhaz23 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Curious why you feel that way about Dario?

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solenoid0937 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

HN thinks the safety crowd is dumb, and has never seriously engaged with the AI safety space.

HN doesn't believe superintelligence will be a thing; while the AI safety crowd believes they are building it. So the decisionmaking of the safety crowd is incomprehensible to HN.

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pseudony an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Funny how Dario’s and Sam’s concern for our safety dovetails so nicely with their companies’ strategies. How fortunate.

Grow up. Whenever push comes to shove, they reduce safety and alignment departments, rush out releases over the heads of the same departments. If you engaged with the news these last years you’d see it for what it is “models for me, but not for thee”.

	▲	solenoid0937 42 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It's clear you haven't engaged with the subject matter beyond the typical "internet-forum cynic" mindset. Both companies were founded on the basis of AI Safety. - There are tons of great safety people doing real work at OpenAI. Releases are held back, models are evaluated, etc. - Anthropic goes even further - constrained themselves with a PBC/LTBT structure, treat safety even more rigorously, and notably delayed the release of Mythos (literally the opposite of what you alleged) and continue to hold their two red lines. You should actually talk to some of the people at these labs. Nearly everyone working at these places genuinely believe AGI/ASI is actually happening, so they do take safety seriously. To imply these companies don't care about safety is typical internet-brand nihilism/cynicism that helps you feel smart while being literally the opposite of the truth.
	▲	SubiculumCode an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		There is no reason for you to make personal attacks like that. Not on HN. Moreover, your take on Dario is over simplistic, and undersells the extent to which Anthropic takes seriously safety. It's not lip service, there are real dollars and attention spent on alignment at Anthropic.

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DrewADesign 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Reductionist. Many of us think they’re all dumb.

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politician an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Dario quit OpenAI to hype the AI apocalypse for quick cash and attention. Then, he walked right into an obvious crisis with the Pentagon by continuing to try to play both sides of the AGI doom story that even his own AI would've pointed out. Then, after being labelled a supply chain risk, he starts a new roadshow with the newest most dangerous AI model that definitely cannot be released to the public and its safer little brother Fable. A move that gets both his premier models shut down globally once the same government that labelled them a supply chain risk learns that Fable isn't actually safe from jailbreaks. Just prior to his planned IPO.

Dario might not be a literal idiot, but he might strongly benefit from training a model to do strategic thinking for Anthropic.

	▲	throwatdem12311 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		All of these things have people frothing at the mouth to give up all their data to Anthropic to use their models and to buy in when the IPO eventually happens. Seems to me Dario is actually a genius. These are all things that I would to make people believe that my “basically the same as the other guy” product is ackshually best thing ever for real. Trust me bro. The entire bubble is hype and fear mongering. The technical merits of the products are completely irrelevant at this point. Dario is doing exactly what someone that understands this would do and they are winning.