HN thinks the safety crowd is dumb, and has never seriously engaged with the AI safety space.

HN doesn't believe superintelligence will be a thing; while the AI safety crowd believes they are building it. So the decisionmaking of the safety crowd is incomprehensible to HN.

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pseudony an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Funny how Dario’s and Sam’s concern for our safety dovetails so nicely with their companies’ strategies. How fortunate.

Grow up. Whenever push comes to shove, they reduce safety and alignment departments, rush out releases over the heads of the same departments. If you engaged with the news these last years you’d see it for what it is “models for me, but not for thee”.

	▲	solenoid0937 42 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It's clear you haven't engaged with the subject matter beyond the typical "internet-forum cynic" mindset. Both companies were founded on the basis of AI Safety. - There are tons of great safety people doing real work at OpenAI. Releases are held back, models are evaluated, etc. - Anthropic goes even further - constrained themselves with a PBC/LTBT structure, treat safety even more rigorously, and notably delayed the release of Mythos (literally the opposite of what you alleged) and continue to hold their two red lines. You should actually talk to some of the people at these labs. Nearly everyone working at these places genuinely believe AGI/ASI is actually happening, so they do take safety seriously. To imply these companies don't care about safety is typical internet-brand nihilism/cynicism that helps you feel smart while being literally the opposite of the truth.
	▲	SubiculumCode an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		There is no reason for you to make personal attacks like that. Not on HN. Moreover, your take on Dario is over simplistic, and undersells the extent to which Anthropic takes seriously safety. It's not lip service, there are real dollars and attention spent on alignment at Anthropic.

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DrewADesign 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Reductionist. Many of us think they’re all dumb.