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irishcoffee 4 hours ago

AI is like when some fella named Nobel synthesized dynamite. He sure did have good intentions as it relates to safety for workers doing dangerous jobs.

There is your “pro” argument.

The “con” argument would be all the other ways dynamite has been twisted and used since.

This AI stuff is neither good or bad, it is a tool. The people using it are either good or bad.

vitally3643 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

AI is like nuclear weapons research. It killed a horrific number of people in unimaginably gruesome ways, and it rendered parts of the environment utterly uninhabitable for generations but we got mumble mumble fission power out of it so it's impossible to say if nuking live humans was a bad thing.

A nuclear bomb is just a tool, the people who use them are good or bad.

Sometimes tools in and of themselves are bad. They exist exclusively to do bad things and cause only damage, and on scales that are literally impossible for regular people to imagine. The consequences of using the tool are only bad, and last decades if not centuries.

There are no "peaceful" uses for nuclear bombs. We tried, and every proposal failed because they're nuclear goddamn bombs and the literal fallout ruins the environment for generations in fun and unpredictable ways.

A screwdriver or a hammer are tools that are morally ambivalent. The People Grinder 9000 is not, nor is the Copyright Launderer 2000.5 or the IP Theft Machine. Tools designed explicitly to do bad things are in and of themselves bad

nearlyepic 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

“drunk driving kills a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time, so it’s impossible to say whether it’s bad or not”

irishcoffee 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> “drunk driving kills a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time, so it’s impossible to say whether it’s bad or not”

No, no that doesn't work. Nobody thinks that.

"Drunk people who do it think that!"

You framed your comment as a 3rd party, not the idiot driving drunk, the above 'argument' doesn't hold water.

nearlyepic 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> No, no that doesn't work. Nobody thinks that.

Yeah, obviously. It was a sarcastic reply to a nonsense argument of “there are no bad things only bad people”

irishcoffee 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I didn't say that either. Strawmanning isn't very nice. Have a good day!

nearlyepic 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> This AI stuff is neither good or bad, it is a tool. The people using it are either good or bad.

You quite literally did??

vitally3643 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It must be exhausting moving those goalposts so often