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| ▲ | throwaway2037 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > There is a constant American assumption that their language and culture is the norm
You write it like it is a moral flaw in American culture. This cultural phenom isn't special to the United States. In my personal experience, any country with a large population suffers from the same: Russia, Brazil, Indonesia, India, China, etc. > having a master branch in git
This is a weird cultural battle to pick. In the 2010s, when renaming the git master branch was at its cultural zeitgeist, none of the Americans that I worked with did the rename. It was always someone not from the US who would raise the issue on a team call. It happened so many times that I asked a few of them why they did it. Almost all of them told the same rough story: They say a "nerd news story" about the trend, then did a little bit of reading on Wiki to learn about the cruel history of slavery in the United States. Motivated by this, they decided to do the rename. All in all, pretty wholesome stuff. Never once was it some weird social justice warrior type of bullcrap. But anyway, you do you: Keep rockin' the "master" branch in git. |
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| ▲ | its-summertime 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| When I read "inclusive", my mind jumped to accessibility, in that colloquialisms can be difficult to understand for a subset of people with autism (and other conditions), and also that they translate poorly when run through a translator, for those that do not speak English at all. |
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| ▲ | afandian 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Equally, I doubt there was a single Brit involved in RFC 2617 Section 4.3 (for example). |
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| ▲ | throwaway2037 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't understand the reference. I looked it up here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2617#section-4.3 4.3 Limited Use Nonce Values
The Digest scheme uses a server-specified nonce to seed the
generation of the request-digest value (as specified in section
3.2.2.1 above). As shown in the example nonce in section 3.2.1, the
server is free to construct the nonce such that it may only be used
from a particular client, for a particular resource, for a limited
period of time or number of uses, or any other restrictions. Doing
so strengthens the protection provided against, for example, replay
attacks (see 4.5). However, it should be noted that the method
chosen for generating and checking the nonce also has performance and
resource implications. For example, a server may choose to allow
each nonce value to be used only once by maintaining a record of
whether or not each recently issued nonce has been returned and
sending a next-nonce directive in the Authentication-Info header
field of every response. This protects against even an immediate
replay attack, but has a high cost checking nonce values, and perhaps
more important will cause authentication failures for any pipelined
requests (presumably returning a stale nonce indication). Similarly,
incorporating a request-specific element such as the Etag value for a
resource limits the use of the nonce to that version of the resource
and also defeats pipelining. Thus it may be useful to do so for
methods with side effects but have unacceptable performance for those
that do not.
Can you explain your (assumed) sarcastic remark? | | |
| ▲ | afandian 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That third word, starting with 'n' is British slang, which you are welcome to look up. Presumably the etymology was in place before it took on its present meaning, but it is not a word I would use in a professional context. My comment was oblique, but not sarcastic. Partly because I didn't want to use the word directly, and partly in keeping with the tone of the original blog post! | | |
| ▲ | graemep 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The British usage predates the RFC and probably the cryptographic use. I definitely heard the term in the late 80s. |
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| ▲ | ethersteeds 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In British slang, "nonce" is a highly offensive term for a sex offender, particularly one who has harmed children. It is considered derogatory and should be used with caution. | | |
| ▲ | jowsie an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'm guessing this is very context/region dependant. Calling someone a nonce as a bit of banter would be more acceptable than calling them a paedophile when I was growing up. I assume because using the officially recognised term made your accusations seem more ernest, though I've never actually thought much about it before. |
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| ▲ | roryirvine 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "number used once" wouldn't be the first definition of that word which springs to mind for most people in the UK. |
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| ▲ | phoronixrly 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Translation for en-US speakers -- Trump is an example of a nonce, as is his buddy - formerly Prince Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor. |
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| ▲ | TFNA 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "There is a constant American assumption that their language and culture is the norm" This is now far more than an American assumption. I have seen younger continental Europeans bristle at UK English because they grew up in a world of social media that is converging on usage that is closer to US English. |
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| ▲ | throwaway2037 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Real question: Post 2010, are there any non-English speaking nations that get most of their English language media from the UK? Since everthing went online after 2010, I assume US has the highest influence (linguistically) only because of "mass". Dear UK readers: Please don't interpret my comment that UK language culture is somehow inferior. HN knows and loves UK humor! |
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| ▲ | jakobnissen 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But being non-inclusive by speaking to a particular cultural reference frame is not the same as being racist. |
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| ▲ | graemep 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I agree, but some people seem to think it is, which i think what the article is a response to: just just in the comment, but in the wider push to use certain language. |
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| ▲ | dgellow 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > I intend to keep eating Wait, isn't that a cigarette? Why would you eat it? edit: nevermind, it's actually meatballs, the short version is for cigarettes |
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| ▲ | ndsipa_pomu 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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