Nobody cares about this temporary "ban" by the US government. If anything it only increased the mystique of the two models.

I think Europe and Canada are just happy not to be frozen out of AI access completely at this point.

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andy99 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

All the discussion this week have been about GLM, Qwen, etc. Both over 1000 comments in the last couple days.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48709670

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48721903

Of course Anthropic is still relevant, but people have realized they’re not special, and between this and the ID verification thing, they’ve given up a ton of their relevance vs a month ago.

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modriano an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I used Fable 5 for maybe 10 hours in the window when it was available. It was much better than Opus 4.8. And I have found the Opus models to be excellent, but Fable 5 was cranking out incredible research on some data sources I wanted to plumb into my project.

I wouldn't personally pay API pricing for it for my personal projects, but I bet it's going to be absolutely slammed with usage for the next month+.

	▲	musha68k 44 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		No doubt Anthropic Mythos/Fable are frontier. I also miss having access as it uncovered some "evals repellant" regressions on my personal pet factory. OTOH for most of my day to day work I've come to realize that faster ~ Opus 4.6 / GPT 5.3 level capabilities could be the sweet spot as scaffolding has to be put in place right after clean specs and constant review anyways. The latest chinese models and GLM 5.2 in particular felt on-par on that front.

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musha68k an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As everyone knows, Kool-Aid is also just mostly water.

I work in AI / infrastructure and I have never seen as much interest towards investing into sovereignty by actual deciders. Thankfully, at this point I can't see any flip-flopping / change of messaging stopping that train.

In CA/EU over the last ~15 years, one used to be perceived as a bit of a "weird systems person" by just proposing alternatives to the big hyperscalers.

So the Trump administration, hands-down, has been the greatest ally here.

In tandem, I was hoping Anthropic would be keeping "dangerously capable" models banned from "evil Chinese distillers" for as long as possible.

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datakan 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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chews 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I bought a GLM 1 year subscription and changed my environment variables to use Claude Code... yep the same one that is using stegonography to send details about users to the model. China knows where I live, I'm not getting ripped off or rug pulled on their models either.