| ▲ | gspr 18 hours ago |
| They weren't trespassing, they were invited! Aside: why do Americans always talk about trespassing as something that is done to the trespasser? Isn't trespassing the act itself? If I plant myself in your livingroom uninvited, then surely I am trespassing. Why do so many people instead say that I "get trespassed"? |
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| ▲ | darthwalsh 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Because it's a common phrase? Same as "get carded"? English is flexible; almost any combination of words can start to have meaning. |
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| ▲ | efreak 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Tresspass is not a reflexive verb. It does not happen to you, rather it's an action you perform. Saying someone got trespassed is like saying you were driven when you go somewhere in your car, or that the door opened itself; you're taking the agency away from the person doing the trespassing and saying that they didn't actually do it themselves, but rather someone else did it/it something that happened to them. This isn't a judgement on the article; it you don't want to say they were trespassing, then you should say it differently: they were _charged with_ or _accused of_ trespassing, etc. | |
| ▲ | gspr an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Because it's a common phrase? I know it's a common phrase (albeit sa uniquely american one? Never heard this from e.g. Brits). I'm asking how it came to be that way when it seemingly makes no sense. > Same as "get carded"? No, because "being carded" (if I understand correctly) is something that does in fact happen to you. In trespassing, you are the one doing the trespassing (to something/someone else). That's why I find it so weird that Americans turn the subject into object in the sentence. > English is flexible; almost any combination of words can start to have meaning Sure. But taking a perfectly fine sentence and turning the subject into an object (when the physical reality is unchanged) seems strange, and warrants curiosity. |
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| ▲ | Aerroon 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Because in semi-public places, like a store, you are only trespassing if you've been told to leave (you are trespassed). |
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| ▲ | gspr 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why "are you trespassed" if you're told to leave? I understand that you might not be engaging in the act of trespassing until you have been made aware that you must leave. But refusing to do so surely then means that you are trespassing not that you "are trespassed? Trespassing is the act. The trespasser is the subject undertaking the act. The object that is being trespassed upon is surely then the offended location and/or person? |
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| ▲ | NopIdoN 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| the trespasser got trespasserized* by the trespassee, who was trespassed against when the trespasser did a trespass on them * trespasserified |