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Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand(reclaimthenet.org)
30 points by Cider9986 11 hours ago | 18 comments
Cider9986 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I saw a post on the GrapheneOS forum of someone who was accosted by Google with this requirement, so they are certainly using it.

It's interesting the parallels of Google's recaptcha and Cloudflare turnstile.

Cloudflare is free, no image selector, allows VPNs and Tor for the most part, just 0 click with a good ip reputation and 1 click with a bad one.

Recaptcha is paid, trains waymos, sucks millions of hours of human time, asks for camera access, asks for a phone attestation, blocks VPNs/Tor.

Thank god less sites are using ReCAPTCHA.

Looking forward to some other solutions gaining prominence eventually as well.

Like that Anime girl one.

ButlerianJihad 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> trains Waymos

https://m.xkcd.com/2228/

ragnar76 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What if you don't have a cam or a hand?

ta93754829 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

can't even do onlyfans

outside1234 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

SYNTAX ERROR

jimmy76615 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Doesn't surprise me at all and seems like a good solution to the problem of human verification. It won't take long for AI to catch up to that, but this captcha method might hold for a couple of months.

Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this. The alternative would be device certificate stuff (ala did Apple sign for this being a proper Apple device?). Having to shake your hand sounds a lot more privacy friendly. Are you guys seriously worried that Google is gonna steal your secret handshakes?

aix1 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this.

For starters, it's extremely invasive (camera on to pay a bill - wtf?), has unclear privacy implications and questionable accessibility (to put it mildly).

Terr_ 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Imagine getting your hand wrongly blacklisted as a fake, and then someday down the road you make a wrong gesture during an online interview and now your real-name is also on the suspicion list.

nerdsniper 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Imagine you don’t have a hand.

ButlerianJihad 5 hours ago | parent [-]

As a Man of Culture, my hand ranks highly among my most valuable appendages!

smalltorch 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I could see this being privacy friendly if the user could see exactly what Google was using.

For instance, terminalcam, gives just enough data to reveal liveness without necessarily giving enough information about identity.

https://gitlab.com/here_forawhile/terminalcam

add-sub-mul-div 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The non-mandatory internet that requires any captcha at all is becoming non-existent to me.

tensegrist 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

can a unique fingerprint (no pun intended) be extracted from hand geometry

outside1234 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it weird that my reaction to all of this is that I am just going to drop these websites when they ask me for this?

Cider9986 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, but what would you do if it's a government required service?

expedition32 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh I wish! Had to solve one in order to pay a bill.

The internet is dead.

catfish-1234 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My openclaw agent gonna find some way around it.

pinnapi 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

things are getting out of hand :D