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Rocketlab acquires Iridium(investors.rocketlabcorp.com)
102 points by everfrustrated 2 hours ago | 56 comments
proee 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

We have a bright future full of endless "space-junk". As the price to orbit drops, people will inevitably send up more and more satellites that have questionable value. In 100 years will the sky at night just be a massive grid of dots moving across the sky?

Who will create the first advertisement in space using satellites as pixels to create their company logo? Maybe they can add some color and animations for kicks.

Edit: Another note on space junk is the effect on our atmosphere with all the "burning-up" of various materials. Apparently they don't just completely vaporize, but instead leave behind micro particles that float around for a long time. People are studying this and hopefully raising appropriate alarms (Making the case for wood satellites).

Centigonal 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Hank Green did a video recently advocating for an "orbit value tax" -- like a Georgist Land Value Tax, but for orbits. This tax would, among other things, help fund orbital cleanup and internalize the externality of polluting orbital shells. It's an idea that deserves more discourse IMO.

Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLjW6zuYmos

s0rce 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

There is a legitimate concern with space junk hitting useful stuff or even manned spacecraft but I think space is big and the sky won't appear bright soon. Not all satellites are that reflective and they need to reflect the sun, they don't just glow visibly.

TheJoeMan 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

At present, I don't believe there are industry standards / codes mandating minimization of reflectivity. My understanding is that SpaceX has engineered for this from their own internal requirements and "goodness of their hearts" (which may be related to avoidance of public pushback). As we anticipate a major scale-up of LEO in the future, it follows that "cost pressures" may (mal)incentivize players to skip this concern.

JanSolo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think they saw how SpaceX was using Starlink as launch lever to provide SpaceX a baseline of regular launches at bare-minimum cost. As RocketLab starts to scale up, being able guarantee a minimum number of launches is a significant hedge against the dips in the global satellite market.

Also, RocketLab builds their own sats and can add the Iridium constellation replacements to their order book. It's a win-win. A smart move by Peter Beck and his team.

NetMageSCW an hour ago | parent [-]

What does Tesla have to do with Starlink or launch services?

JanSolo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Derp; I meant SpaceX.

pulse7 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk%27s_Tesla_Roadster ?

Centigonal an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Rocket Lab acquires Iridium" sounds like a notification out of Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri or Anno 2205.

phildenhoff an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rocket lab used to be a New Zealand source of pride, having started there. From the press release, now it’s American. What happened?

MyelinatedT an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It was always an American company. In order to launch rockets from countries in the US sphere of influence (even from NZ), companies must obtain an FAA license.

Rocket technology itself is so intensely regulated by US export control laws that it’s practically impossible to develop an orbital launch vehicle without being a US- or Europe-registered company.

It is a real shame. It also looks like a lot of engineering work is shifting away from NZ — Auckland seems to be focusing more on operations and space systems, and the launch stuff is moving to the US with Neutron.

ortusdux an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Lab#United_States_move_...

khurs 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

SpaceX previously said that are not allowed to hire foreign nationals generally.

So guess NASA told Rocket that if they want American contracts, they need to move?

https://qz.com/794101/elon-musk-explains-why-he-doesnt-hire-...

ericmay an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Needs access to American capital markets, contracts, governance structures, and jurisdiction (applicable law).

elzbardico an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Capital probably, market access. It is pretty hard to raise capital for high risk ventures like that everywhere in the world other than the US.

ryandvm 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I dunno. I would be surprised if a 30 year old telecommunications network is going to be technically competitive with a SpaceX's LEO network that is still launching satellites as we speak.

How much market is there for people that just want low speed connectivity from the middle of nowhere?

kilroy123 a minute ago | parent | next [-]

You realize they have a new network of satellites, right? It works much better than the old version with the 90s tech.

A lot of remote IOT devices use Iridium, as well as the US government or DoD.

denotes 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sailors may be a small and dwindling community, but this is our core use case. When you are sailing offshore you need to download weather predictions so that you can chart your course to catch favorable winds. My experience with Iridium is that you open a targeted set of ports for the modem to feed your phone via, and then you don't have to think about it again. 100+ nautical miles offshore and it just works.

ttul 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s not about Iridium. It’s about Iridium’s customers and partnerships. RocketLab hopes to launch their own satellites presumably and then can sell significantly improved services to them, without having to build a customer base from scratch.

khurs 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Good to see the competition making moves, SpaceX's huge lead isn't ideal.

Joel_Mckay 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

Starlink Direct to Cell (VoLTE) service now leverages global cellphone client infrastructure. It would be extremely foolish to compete with something proprietary. =3

pelorat 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I like RocketLab. Looking forward to Neutron etc. But this is a bad investment, no other way to put it.

Joel_Mckay 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

Uncertain what Iridium global RF band allocation holdings were worth.

If it is still pole-to-pole global monolithic coverage, than hardware/legacy-protocols are of secondary interest. Modern SDR transceivers with proper RF beam-steering front-ends could retrofit the business while slowly phasing out legacy hardware.

But I do agree, Iridium was too pricey for most consumer product markets, and there were several other satellite broadband services.

Additionally, Starlink Direct to Cell (VoLTE) service now leverages global cellphone client infrastructure. It would be extremely foolish to compete with something proprietary. =3

everfrustrated 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

RocketLab gains spectrum + profitable satellite company

davidpapermill an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Rocket Lab has secured commitments for a $3.6 billion bridge loan from Deutsche Bank and Wells Fargo to fund the cash portion of the acquisition.

Given the timing, this seems like a risky move as they'll be issuing debt in mid-2027 to refinance the bridge, at a time the market could be saturated / corrected.

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/rocket-lab-bu...

wongarsu an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And access to a customer base. A lot easier to sell them new services if they already have a big contract with you

espadrine an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Iridum gains 23 launches per year with 100% success rate in the past 12 months, a satellite manufacturing pipeline with 6 satellites produced and launched, and a cost-to-orbit of $25K/kg operational (with an in-development design targetting $4K/kg).

They are late compared to SpaceX, to be sure: 150 launches per year, 2400 satellites manufactured per year, $3K/kg operational with F9, target $200/kg in development with Starship.

panick21_ an hour ago | parent [-]

You act as if 'launch' is a thing. All Rocket Lab launches ever combined don't even fill a single SpaceX rocket. Those are not the same thing.

Lets see their reliability when they have a bigger rocket and if they can land reliably. Because their rocket will be quite expensive to build.

schainks 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

I think that’s the point of their niche right? They are already plenty reliable. Also let’s them do stuff like this:

https://rocketlabcorp.com/updates/victus-haze/

NetMageSCW an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A profitable satellite company with a lot of debt and satellites that target the previous model of bespoke terminals when the market is moving to satellite service on regular phones.

amluto 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> the market is moving to satellite service on regular phones.

I don’t think there a unified “market” here. The fixed rooftop terminals and fixed-ish roaming terminals use high (tens of GHz) frequencies with correspondingly wide bandwidth, have excellent beamforming capabilities and some degree of MIMO to improve spectrum reuse, and consume an amount of power that would be outrageous for a phone. Phones don’t have reliably clear views of the sky and have much weaker RF capabilities.

Oh, and phones are well served by existing 4G and 5G networks in dense areas, with better spectrum reuse than seems practical for a satellite constellation.

I expect that we will actually see two separate markets that happen to share the same satellites and backhaul.

piltdownman 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

//I don’t think there a unified “market” here.

You mean like the ASTS/Vodafone partnership that birthed the Satellite Connect Europe?

https://www.vodafone.com/news/newsroom/technology/satellite-...

https://www.vodafone.com/news/newsroom/technology/vodafone-a...

Or like the US JV where they provide the infra for AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20260513491108/en/AST...

//Phones don’t have reliably clear views of the sky and have much weaker RF capabilities.

And they appear to have circumvented that, although ease of scaling remains to be seen.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASTSpaceMobile/comments/1k6whtf/rak...

hobonation an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Iridium terminals can be very power-efficient. Consumer ones are the size of a deck of cards and can last for days.

Symmetry an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The spectrum is the big thing. If they wanted a revenue stream they could just buy bonds.

wateralien an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“Rocket Lab” not “RocketLab”. Although I think the latter is better.

moralestapia an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Crazy. I didn't know you could acquire things worth 20x more than you.

pnw an hour ago | parent | next [-]

RocketLab market cap is 57b.

Iridium market cap was 5.5b and this transaction values it at 8b.

xgbi an hour ago | parent | next [-]

How is Rocketlab valued 57B? They made $500M of revenue in 2025. This is 100x their entire balance sheet.

pavon 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, that seems grossly unrealistic. They are growing. Neutron is almost complete, and I'd expect significant growth in their launch revenue from that, and their space services are also doing well. So I could easily see their revenue increasing 5x over the next 5 years, maybe 10x. But that market cap can only be justified by the space market as a whole growing 100x, and RL maintaining a significant portion of it with strong competition from SpaceX, Blue Origin, and others.

wateralien an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is a good question for SpaceX too.

saberience an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why was Uber valued in billions for years while making zero profit?

Why was Amazon valued at billions while making zero profit?

The stock market prices companies by many factors, revenue and profit are factors but so is growth.

Utilities companies make lots of profits but they are valued badly because they don’t grow at all!

Markets are forward looking and space is seen as a huge growth driver for the future, also RocketLab has been growing their top line revenue massively over the last few years.

wongarsu 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

Uber and Amazon made zero profit, but a lot of revenue. That's very different from losing money on fairly little revenue

But RocketLab did have five years of strong revenue growth. And they have a lower PS ratio than SpaceX. So at least compared to industry-rivals the valuation is justified

moralestapia 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Exactly my point.

Iridium's revenue is larger, and I wouldn't think they'd be losing money.

But apparently you can buy things with promises (if you're in the right club, of course).

sspiff an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm guessing they acquired it mostly exchanging stocks. Which I guess is an indication that their stock is overvalued right now if they're willing to overpay by that much.

brookst an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Look at GameStop’s quixotic attempt to acquire eBay. Which is actually not impossible.

zie an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It's an interesting way to apply for the eBay CEO job for sure.

iamacyborg an hour ago | parent [-]

Someone's been reading Money Stuff.

ortusdux an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

5x the market cap!

moralestapia an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Did GameStop acquire eBay?

sspiff an hour ago | parent [-]

They are trying.

malfist an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Dell bought EMC for 67b when they were worth 24b

PierceJoy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rocket Lab's market cap is 57B and are buying Iridium for 8B. I'm assuming you're implying some other measure of worth, but it's not that crazy based on stock price.

ericmay an hour ago | parent [-]

Also folks acquire things "worth" more than them all the time. That's in part why debt exists.

There are a lot of folks out there that are overly cynical and so they'll just write things like the OP from time to time which just don't make much sense or have much to do with how the real world works. What's more interesting is looking at or trying to understand strategically why Rocket Lab is making this move, especially if you are an investor.

bitwize an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is one of those times you actually get to use "leverage" as a verb without sounding turbo cringe: a leveraged buyout is an acquisition with borrowed money; the hope is that you will be able to pay back the debt with the money you make off the acquired assets. Doesn't always pan out but sometimes it does.

elzbardico an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That's this thing called credit.

People do this all the time, that's how they buy their first house (or at least used to...). Your net worth is basically zero beyond what you saved for the down payment, but the bank advances you the money to buy the house because it believes your future income streams will allow you to pay the principal plus an interest.

dylan604 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

being able to foreclose on the house/property is a pretty decent protection for the bank that doesn't exist for a business though