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appplication 2 hours ago

This is the root of AI psychosis. There’s a lot of unpack here, and I won’t go too deep because you can’t really have a discussion with affected folks because their fundamental basis is not evidence, it’s belief.

It is weirdly religious in a way, because if you were to present contrary evidence (e.g. experts in a field weighing in about how plausible sounding responses are bunk), you would only be told you don’t believe enough in the long term potential and capabilities.

Don’t get me wrong, I think we all agree capabilities will eventually improve (and farther-future capabilities could reasonably surpass experts), but really is unclear if the current transformer architectures with their probabilistic/hallucinatory outputs will plateau before they surpass current experts abilities in all promised fields.

operatingthetan 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>This is the root of AI psychosis. There’s a lot of unpack here, and I won’t go too deep because you can’t really have a discussion with affected folks because their fundamental basis is not evidence, it’s belief. Treating it as if it is an intelligence is the problem.

The problem is that AI psychosis is fundamentally the belief that an LLM is "thinking" at all. Outputs are just believable word vomit which resembles factual information.

TomasBM 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why is it psychosis and not lower standards?

While I can understand being skeptical of non-experts' claims that such answers are enough, I don't understand why you call it "psychosis" and not simply naivety or lack of expertise.

At the same time, the new so-called "models" haven't been pure transformer-based LLMs, but entire systems with tools (with access to the Internet), data storage, and the options to trigger additional instances for different tasks.

cheschire 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was a very early adopter in my circles with AI and I shared it with many people. Strangely, I seem to be the most skeptical about AI in my circles as well, but because I was the gateway for a many folks, they want to come back and share their experiences with me.

And it's so much like listening to someone in a church congregation sharing their experiences with god. Clear and obvious gaps are hand-waved away exactly how you're describing.

sublinear 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Human expertise is also improving all the time and not limited to just connecting dots. When AI seems to surpass a particular human, it's just because the human lacks broader knowledge and fails to investigate further.

An expert already knows they don't know everything. That was never the point. Critical thinking cannot be delegated to AI any more than it can be delegated to a book. There is nothing new going on here.

lazide an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I don’t think they will improve, there is too much incentive to poison the datasets going forward.

A lot of the models up to this point have been benefitted - like Google did - from essentially ‘pre SEO’ internet.

Now the same tools are being used to generate nigh infinite good sounding bullshit, which poisons the dataset in all sorts of hard to detect ways.

To add insult to injury, the human experts are also not as. Naive, and have many incentives to poison their own input in subtle ways too.

brokencode 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I seriously doubt that data set poisoning will be a real limiter in model performance.

For one, if your website/book is poisoned, who is going to trust it for anything at all, much less for training models?

For two, all the major AI labs hire or contract for subject matter experts to create curated data sets, evaluate model performance, etc.

Unless they hire malicious experts, this will provide a growing, high quality data set that should drown out any poisoned pretraining data.

microgpt 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Pretty easy to display one thing to verified browsers (just latest few user-agents from the 10ish different mainstream browsers on the 3 main OSes) and another to anything else.

Yes AI scrapers can easily spoof user-agent, but they fall out of date as the browser updates.

Bit harder to catch them in tarpits and then serve nonsense to whoever ever triggered the tarpit.

Analemma_ 7 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I think you underestimate just how much money is being poured into LLM SEO at the moment. It's real quiet because they don't want to draw attention and countermeasures from the frontier labs, but this is getting huge investment, and they will have a monomaniac focus on juicing product results whereas the attention of the labs necessarily has to be spread out.

rvnx 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Human doctors use LLMs to diagnose too

OpenEvidence claims

    "More than 40% of U.S. physicians use it daily, and it handled around 20 million clinical consultations per month. Over 100 million Americans were treated by a doctor using it in 2025."
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/21/openevidence-chatgpt-for-doc...
something98 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

This is a very misleading statement; most of those physicians are using LLMs to transcribe notes from visits and/or for billing purposes (e.g., proper billing codes).

brokencode 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

OpenEvidence is specifically meant to help clinicians make evidence-based decisions in the diagnosis and treatment of patients, not note transcription.

sxg 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

It does both: https://www.openevidence.com/user-guide/visits-overview

sarchertech 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ignoring the fact that this number comes from a company press release, it doesn’t say anything about the number of doctors using it to diagnose, just that they use it.

If a physician uses Google to search for a dosage chart for some drug they rarely prescribe, you wouldn’t say they are using Google to diagnose the patient. You wouldn’t say that either if they used Google to search for the most recent studies on a topic.

sambellll 7 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

To me this is like a good software engineer using AI.

The fact that they use it doesn't make what the result is any worse or less trustworthy - arguably it makes it better.

It only becomes a problem if they offload all of the thinking to AI.