Have you seen legitimate corporates use cracked software? If you do, then your competitors will report you; your employees will blackmail you. The risk is too great.

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0x3f 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This assumes the same reward ratio also continues, but that's not the case. A cutting edge LLM is something much more valuable than a cracked copy of Word. Just like the LLM providers themselves decided violating copyright was an acceptable risk, it entirely depends on how people see the tradeoffs, rather than being a categorical decision.

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utilize1808 2 hours ago | parent [-]

While that might be true, it is unlikely that open source models' capability will ever surpass frontier models --- if you have the best model (by some margin), then people will want to access it, even if it means going through compliance.

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gizzlon 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

> it is unlikely that open source models' capability will ever surpass frontier models

Sure about that? Would you invest in products almost no-one can buy?

otoh, maybe China stop releasing their best models

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utilize1808 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes, that's what I meant. It's not that the Chinese will never be able to come up with models that superior --- it's simply that they will no longer have the incentive to open-source them once their models take the lead.

Training models are expensive. No one can do it for free for very long.

	▲	gizzlon 7 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Maybe, or maybe they would take this opportunity to gain a lot of power and influence around the world. Just because you're not paying per token or per month does not mean they are doing it for free.

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microgpt 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've seen "legitimate companies" commit piracy on a scale that well exceeds all cracked software piracy combined.

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jauco an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He said copyright infringement. The company tfa is about literally trained its models using massive copyright infringement.

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Daishiman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Then they'll outsource dev work to agencies that have no frills with it and move along.

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utilize1808 2 hours ago | parent [-]

As a company it is your responsibility to ensure your contractors are compliant. So won't work.

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civet_java an hour ago | parent [-]

I see your comments scattered across this thread with most converging on this thesis: "The US govt will regulate away the ability of US corporations and individuals to use unsanctioned AI models."

Which is a fair thesis. I've seen you counter people's predictions of how they think things will pan as a consequence. But what I'd really like to hear is what you think happens (in the US and internationally) as a consequence of such regulations?

	▲	utilize1808 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		USA will experience unprecedented prosperity from influx of global talents and capital who seek to amplify their productivity and profits by 10x.