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| ▲ | throwaway9917 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I've often heard defenders of Israel crap on the UN General Assembly like it's some woke antifa type organization, but it's one representative per country, chosen by the country's government. If almost every country in the world is constantly officially condemning you, perhaps they are not the problem. | | |
| ▲ | Protostome 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Well, given that between 2015 and 2024 alone, the General Assembly adopted 154 resolutions against Israel. That's more than Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Russia, China *combined*, I find it a bit ... unfair, wouldn't you say? | | |
| ▲ | Schmerika 2 days ago | parent [-] | | More than 14,500 children were killed by Israel in that period. 14,500 / 154 = more than 94 children per resolution. Seems fair. How many children did "Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Russia, China combined" kill in this period, I hear you whatabout: Highest reasonable estimates are ~5,000–10,000 children. ... So, no. I don't think it's unfair. Now let's compare how many sanctions have been inflicted on each country above. If you measure by number of sanctioned individuals/entities, a rough ranking would be: 1: Russia.
2: Iran.
3: North Korea.
4: Sudan.
5: China.
6: Israel. ... So if you're trying to hint that the whole world is only against genocide because they're antisemitic, the facts you're referring to don't really seem to back you up. At all. | | |
| ▲ | Protostome a day ago | parent [-] | | Again, children got killed because their school was used as a ground base to fire rockets from. Do you expect Israelis to allow Hamas rockets to fall in Israeli schools? That's not a reasonable expectation. The choice hamas forces israel to make is cruel and inhuman, that is direct consequence of their radical islamic belief of martirdom. They do not see death like the same way as the west. To them (and I'm not talking about all palestinians, for sure, only Hamas senior leadership which governs Gaza) dead children is a weapon against Israel. In light of this, all their actions finally make sense: 1. No civil defenses, or shelters - just tunnels.
2. Firing from schools and hospitals, as well as hiding weapons and ammo in those places.
3. Arming and sending children to fight That's the most reasonable explanation (which many palestinian extremists have even voiced themselves) | | |
| ▲ | Schmerika a day ago | parent [-] | | > children got killed because their school was used as a ground base to fire rockets from. I don't really know how to talk to people who think killing children - by the tens of thousands - is ever justified, but maybe this will help you: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t-mMt3c3ngQ | | |
| ▲ | Protostome 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, I presume you never had to make the choice between just living with rocket barrages as a daily routine, this is something that’s incredibly hard to fathom. For years and years. Golda Meir once said that peace between Israel and the Palestinians will come once the Palestinians will love their children more than they hate the Jews. Here is perhaps something that could sway your opinion
https://youtu.be/g-xfCH3PQT0?si=aQ3O6g_0v_-2mzf_ | | |
| ▲ | n4r9 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Memri TV is well known for using mistranslations and selective quotation in order to portray Arabs as anti-semitic and extremist: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/may/15/arabic... For all I know, this is the equivalent of filming Westboro Baptist Church members and framing it as the average American's views on homosexuality. | | |
| ▲ | Protostome 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Did you encounter any mistranslation here specifically? it's pretty easy to translate the video with Gemini or a different AI tool. I did it - I ran it through ElevenLabs transcription and GPT5.5 based translation of the transcript, this is what I got: 00:00:16,479 --> 00:00:34,520 [Speaker 0]
And I pray in every prayer — every prayer, every prayer — that I, your father, your sisters, girls and boys, all of you, will be martyrs for the sake of God. When death comes to us, may our whole family be martyrs for the sake of God. And of course, I am proud of Muhammad. I am proud, praise be to God. I mean, praise be to God, praise be to God, all my children are religious and good. 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:34,919 [Speaker 1]
God has willed it / God bless. 00:00:34,919 --> 00:00:49,959 [Speaker 0]
And I, praise be to God — by God, by God — my children and my grandchildren, and all of their family, if all of them were martyred for the sake of God, I would be happy. I mean, praise be to God, I love this path. I mean, I feel that this path is salvation. Clearly, there's no mistranslation here, the intention is very clear. | | |
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| ▲ | throw358643 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s disingenuous to pretend that the Middle East conflict does not align people according to tribal, religious, and political groupings, as well as international alliances. Given that Jews are 0.2% of the world’s population, in contrast to a very large population of people openly biased against Israel, it’s no surprise that when you take a global popular vote that Jews will lose. The UN is not a neutral institution. | | |
| ▲ | throwaway9917 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Sure I understand how Arab or Muslim countries might vote against Israel reflexively, but it's not just them, it's almost the entire world. Go look at this list of Israel related General Assembly resolutions in 2025: https://unwatch.org/2025-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-... The typical vote is like 142-6. The Israeli claim is that almost the entire world are a bunch of anti-Semites that hate them for who they are. Perhaps it's not who they are but what they are doing. | | |
| ▲ | Protostome 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | There are roughly 50 to 57 countries where Muslims make up the majority of the population. Add the countries that are heavily dependent on them, and you end up with a game that is often decided before a single ballot is cast. | |
| ▲ | throw358643 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | From your link: “From 2015 through 2024, the UN General Assembly has adopted 173 resolutions against Israel and 80 against other countries.” Do you seriously think that throughout this time Israel has been that much worse than all other countries? There are many other indications that the UN is biased about Israel: Only one country has its own permanent agenda Item 7 in the UN. Palestinian refugees have their own organization vs refugees from all over the world, with almost 10x the budget per person. In the UNESCO description of Jerusalem it says “The Wailing Wall delimits the quarters of the different religious communities”. There are many other examples like this. Not a single country in the world opened its doors to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. So the majority of the world can absolutely be wrong. | | |
| ▲ | pvaldes 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Not a single country in the world opened its doors to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. Not one except USA. And Sweden, Dominican Republic, Denmark, France, Luxembourg, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Poland, Bolivia, Spain, the Soviets and all the other countries that allowed safe crossing. Even Italy hid Jews... so what history books do you studied?. | | |
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