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mentalgear 2 days ago

This is really sickening - if North Korea or any other less connected country did this, you would quickly see their national (tech) companies being sanctioned by the west. I never understood how a country like Israel, given the history of its own tribe, can themselves become so gruesome and have a hugely state-supported private spy-tech sector that supports the worst autocrates in the world as long as the money flows to them.

jalapenoj 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Hopefully Israel will have lost American support in a generation or so, who cares what happens to them after that.

thrance 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Well, you should still care. They have nukes and have promised to use them were Tel Aviv to fall.

amanaplanacanal 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I suspect that without American support, they would have to do quite a bit to change their behavior. They probably can't afford the current level of conflict on their own. It would force them to negotiate with their neighbors.

JumpCrisscross 2 days ago | parent [-]

Or double down with India or China. (Or a right-wing Europe.)

overfeed 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Iran[1] may also have all the pieces for nukes by then[2], hence Bibi's fraught gamble with the decapitation strikes, and present desperation to continue - even escalate - hostilities.

1. Or the UAE, which has shown interest in nuclear tech, perhaps for strictly peaceful purposes

2. I.e. attain nuclear latency, and finally make real what Netanyahu has been warning the world for decades: that Iran is "weeks away from a nuclear bomb"

tonks a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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manyaoman a day ago | parent [-]

> they can then just go and progrom all the Jews in Israel

If that's really Iran's intent, how do you explain that ~10,000 Jews live peacefully in Iran?

tonks a day ago | parent | next [-]

When there used to be a community of 100k Jews in Iran? In other words more than 90% driven out after the revolution? Prominent Jewish figures and businessmen - most notably Habib Elghanian - were arrested on fabricated charges of espionage and were executed. Community members were forced to closely monitor their actions and maintain a quiet public presence. Down to 10% in 50 years - and in hiding basically - that's your benchmark for Arab tolerance of Jewish minorities? How are the Christians doing in the Middle East? The Yezidis? The Baha'is? The reason middle eastern Muslims hate the Jews so much is simply that they won't bow down. Won't allow their women to be turned into sex slaves with impunity. And have built themselves a successful western country.

manyaoman a day ago | parent [-]

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son_of_a_star a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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manyaoman a day ago | parent [-]

You kind of went around my question but I appreciate the insight, that's new to me.

tonks a day ago | parent [-]

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tdiff 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

First thing coming into mind is the number of companies and individuals blocking Russians in the beginning of the war before any sanctions out of virtue signalling.

myroon5 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> As of 2024, 38 states have passed bills and executive orders designed to discourage boycotts of Israel

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Anti-BDS_laws_in_th...

Melonai 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I felt that quite badly at the start of that war, multiple accounts closed, including my brokerage account, bank account rejected, and a flood of emails asking me to divulge loads of documentation to get them to consider giving them back to me!

I don't actually live in Russia, if I did, it would be even worse.

watwut 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Virtue signaling that consist of blocking Russia is double virtue. You do the good thing and you motivate others to do the good thing too.

We need more of that.

ebbi 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yep, Xero published a blog post outlining their stance on Russia and outlining their sanctions (it was literally less than a handful of accounts for them):

https://blog.xero.com/news-events/our-position-on-ukraine-an...

But they didn't do anything for Israel. Actually, at the height of the genocide, they decided to invest in an Israeli company.

slow claps

iJohnDoe 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Israel has had a hand up each US politician’s ass since the 1980s. Israel owns all of them.

overfeed 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Careful: AIPAC may call you antisemitic for commenting on their effective lobbying

Edit: I wonder if the (predictable) downvoters are following the news https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/22/politics/mamdani-aipac-new-yo...

Joyfield 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wait. The Jews really DOES run everything?

KingMob a day ago | parent [-]

They said Israel, not Jews. Don't be antisemitic.

gryzzly 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

classic antisemitic libel

mfru 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Many many countries got sanctioned into oblivion or color-revolutionized into US-loyalty for far far less (often just for not being aligned with the US).

It is even more sickening and outrageous if you view it through that lens.