You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not.

While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".

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holistio 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

TIL: I just found out that base58 disallows I (capital i), l (lowercase L), O (capital o) and 0 (zero), so I could only generate GrxoJt4eNXE2QaQ55iPSa7hhiYdzCo8ZeAuokmh2Cai.

(don't send anything, sharing only because of the base58 fun fact I didn't know)

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robertwt7 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

at this point I might just try Neuralwatt and see how much request I can get with GLM5.2. I've read a lot of reviews that its very cheap to run using Neuralwatt cloud

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someone_1234 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or use openrouter and switch to model you want to use..(i think so)

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ljlolel 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Or TrustedRouter if you want privacy and open source

	▲	yorwba an hour ago \| parent [-]
		You ought to realize that shilling your product in the comments doesn't exactly come across as trustworthy.

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rvz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pay $0 to run a local model or even a cheap DeepSeek V4 model via their API which is close to free per million tokens.

These prices are just going to get raced to $0.

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holistio 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe. But for now it's fascinating how $200/month has kind of become a normal tier.

It's similar to how AirPods normalised all of us having $300+ headphones. All of us would have scoffed at the idea a decade ago.

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p1esk 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Many people here spent a lot more than $300 on headphones long before AirPods appeared.

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mc3301 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Those were hobbyists, audiophiles, professionals, artists (recording, performing, etc.).

They are talking about a much larger group of people.

	▲	klausa an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I think OP meant noise-cancelling headphones, which were fairly ubiquitous in tech circles in open offices; before Apple launched AirPods.

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holistio 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I had a really nice Sennheiser before that, too. But now you hop on the subway and everybody sports one.

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sofixa 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The Sony WH-1000XM series and the Bose QC35 were the standard quality headphones years before AirPods were a thing, and both retailed at $300+.

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holistio an hour ago | parent [-]

Of course, premium headphones existed before. I have a WH-1000XM4 sitting right next to me.

But your aunt Josie didn't have one. Now Apple is selling 80 million units / year and the ~$300 price tag has become normal. Before that, most people had headphones that were 10 times cheaper.

	▲	Hamuko 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		$300 isn’t what AirPods cost though. You can get a pair of AirPods 4 for $129 on Apple.com, and I presume that is still the most popular model. If you’re paying ~$300, you are buying premium headphones.

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kijin 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not while the hardware required to run a local model at an acceptable speed costs way more than $200.

Guess what, the big players are hoarding all the RAM and GPUs so that other people can't afford decent hardware. It's working out beautifully for them!

	▲	sofixa 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Not while the hardware required to run a local model at an acceptable speed costs way more than $200 It's $200/month. You have to take into account energy costs and all the rest of a system, but if you break even within 1-2 years ($2400-$4800) it'd be a pretty good deal. And $4000 buys you a pretty decent system.

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audreyt 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Happy user here, pairing it with Composer 2.5, with Fugu Ultra as advisor and Fugur as planner. For scope/architecture it’s on par with useful Fable-style orchestration than one chat thread.

I've been shipping production on archive.tw with Fugu Ultra in /advisor on oh-my-pi.

Advisor doesn’t slow the loop if the driver stays fast. Worth it if your harness can split advisor from worker.