After having been a moderator for a number of communities over the years—BBCs in the 90s, niche forums during the 00s & 10s, Reddit boards in the 20s—I’ve come to believe that running shadow services where disruptive individuals can comingle may be the best way to handle this.

The advent of LLMs really opens the door to shunting off these “community members “ who’d rather contribute in misanthropic ways for the lulz than either leave or not contribute at all. They can take part in an interactive echo chamber that gives just as well as they can. You don’t even need a powerful model so the overall costs to the community are probably lower than the alternatives of trying to coexist with community-arsonists.

I spent years trying to find ways to bring people productively “into the fold” but eventually realized that it is futile in some cases because there’s zero value to the individual or the community to find a middle ground. They want to see things burn, and the community simply wants them out.

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purple-leafy an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yes this is the way, give no affordance that they are banned

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fragmede 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But why not kick them out? Why bother with a shadow site for them?

	▲	metamet 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If they don't know they're being quarantined, there's no reason for them to find a way around their block. They'll eventually tucker themselves out and move on to whatever their internet equivalent of burning ants with a magnifying glass is.
	▲	sneak 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The same reason people get shadowbanned. If they know they are banned they will attempt to work around it.