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https://www.wired.com/story/how-peter-thiels-private-dialog-...

There always has been. The only people discrediting it are those that don’t want you to know it exists.

Anyone check in on Ezra?

> a shared preoccupation with artificial intelligence, longevity, and the near future

There are strong historical trends (going thousands of years) associating obsession with those three items (human mimicry, living forever, predicting the future) with terrible outcomes for those who pursue them. In stories, religion, myths and all sorts of blurry ancient ruins of people who exist no more.

I don't know if there's a cabal or not, but there's always a bigger fish (and it's often some unforseen social dynamic).

I think it hurts more knowing that it's in the public, but nothing will be done and they'll continue to smother the general public all the same.

Ha Ha! That's funny 8-)

> "Turn's Out..."

There's been a psycho cabal of the idiot wealthy trying to run the world since the invention of currency...

Before that, there was a murderous cabal of warlords. They haven't gone away, they've just been joined by the idiot wealthy...

I guess Esquire didn't read far enough into the Wired article to discover that this is a tech industry version of similar gatherings like Bilderberg or various WEF side events that have long been known to exist. They're not generally called "cabals" (you'll note Wired did not use this term) because, as far as we know, they don't seem to be much more than glorified social clubs.

This sounds a lot like the Deus Ex (2000) plot.

Title sensationalism

The most surreal part of this from the Wired article [1]:

> The records sit in Airtable

A secret cabal running the world. On AirTable.

[1] https://www.wired.com/story/leak-exposes-members-of-peter-th...

This is not a conspiracy theory. It's actual documented evidence. The Epstein files also shed light on this, Bannon traveling around Europe to fortify alt-right alliance and seed unrest.

It would be irresponsible in the extreme for the wealthy and powerful to not unite in common cause for extending sway into the future even while still competing with each other in the present. It's what social units from families to small businesses to trans-national businesses to countries do all the time. This is just another example, and since the tendency of co-operative behavior even among competing interests extends into the distant past of life's evolutionary history it's unlikely we'll see it go away.

I feel like based on the amount of power these people wield in the world I should be afraid of them, but then I read this:

> registrants returned again and again to the same theme: that AI will reorder work, war, education, and belief within a few years.

lmao. nvm. they're idiots.

I guess if it comes full circle the trend among conspiracy theorists will have them touting how there's no possible way there can be a "cabal" of any kind.

Oy vey, delete this blatant anti-semitism

No shit, Sherlock.

I don't buy this personally. The leaks of Peter Thiel's 'Dialog' society demonstrate to me that the bell curve™ (or normal distribution as cool cats refer to it) exists at every level of wealth and society. (Look up the banality of the topics if you're curious as to what I mean here) What this means to me personally is that there is a certain level of baked-in/read-only reaction to being in certain types of social circles, and those circles tend to act according to Nature™ and try to preserve themselves while spreading. Practically the upshot here is that what we interpret as a "cabal" is actually the self-preservation of a system that is not publicly available for observation. Moreover, in many cases, the only means of admission to this class is purely by luck/chance/birth into a certain family group. In many ways these systems are counter-intuitive; wealth is typically used as a means to have a "nice life", while forcing the rest of the world into a state of decay, which ruins of the value of the wealth. As one group continues to grow in their ability to extract resources, they also place pressure upon their own relationship between themselves and those extracting the resources for them as the pyramid scheme breaks down with less people to pull into it over time. (Chasing infinite gains in terms of corporate stock or private gains from equity investments IS a pyramid scheme, however legal it may be.) Thus, what's interpreted as a "dangerous cabal" is more like the relationship between animal groups, and new elements in the natural hierarchy have displaced resources between the groups, which will cause a correction to slowly occur in terms of the overall patterns. Ideally, these groups would recognize the signalling occurring and attempt to bring things back into a natural stasis pattern. (i.e. many people are complaining about wealth/billionaires, it may be strategic to invest in bettering society and creating homogeneity so that things remain as an enjoyable Epcot™-esque collective as opposed to a globally-connected & self-hating/billionaire-hating slave class)

I liked my take better. News outlets are hypersensationalizing this and running with it.

https://youtu.be/CSJUnm_rGKo

I don't know if this is true any more, but esquire used to have an extremely good journalistic reputation. If someone said the the sun rose in the east, they would verify the sun rose in the east before printing it.