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Avicebron 15 hours ago

Anyone check in on Ezra?

ddxv 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Enough people have asked me about the Peter Thiel-Dialog story that I think it's worth saying what it is, or at least what I saw it to be. So:

–Dialog is a conference. I went once in 2018 and once in 2022. No one ever asked me to keep it or my presence a secret.

–My understanding was Thiel was one of its founders but no longer involved by the time I went. I never saw or talked to him in connection with Dialog.

–Nor did I see the other names I’ve heard mentioned, like Ted Cruz or Elon Musk or Joseph Gordon-Levitt or Jared Kushner. Dialog was not sold to me as a bunch of big names, which is part of why I went. I don’t need to go to a conference to hear what Ted Cruz thinks.

–You could be a Dialog member, but I wasn’t. I don’t think joining got you much except guaranteed invitations to future Dialogs. There were occasional dinners and webinars, but I never went to one. I would not have described it as a secret or a society.

–The panels were largely self-organized, so people would propose panels and hold them. I went to one on being a working parent and another on whether crypto had any real use cases and another on how to accelerate scientific breakthroughs. You’d usually have 8 or 10 people in a room. It was all very TED-talk adjacent.

–In 2018, I found it very optimistic, with an idealistic hacker-ish vibe. In 2022, I found the conversations and vibe more curdled and resentful. I didn’t enjoy it, and I didn’t go back. (That did prove a pretty good signal of where tech’s politics were going though, maybe I should’ve paid more attention.)

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first half of his comment about it from X

JeremyNT 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Link: https://xcancel.com/ezraklein/status/2068479476309151771

x3n0ph3n3 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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ahazred8ta 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:There%27s_no_cabal.png No such thing.

pasquinelli 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

a cabal isn't a social club.

lazide 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Isn’t it literally one though?

blurbleblurble 15 hours ago | parent [-]

I've always considered it to be some marriage of convenience moreso than some kind of formal thing. And at any rate arguing over whether there's an explicit cabal or not very badly misses the point.

ceejayoz 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Plenty of people who hate each other manage to form orgs. Stalin and his cronies. The Nazis. The Trump White House. Back stabbing abounds.

throwaway27448 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The narcissism of small differences