| ▲ | budududuroiu 9 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||
> As a parent, I completely agree. What's stopping you from doing this so far? Handing a child a smartphone is a decision parents can make, withholding access to a smartphone is also a decision parents can make. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | hatefulmoron 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm not in favor of these social media bans, but I would think the benefit here is that without the ban your child will be in the "real world" while everybody else's is on social media. This would make the "real world" socialization benefits more difficult. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | scandox 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Enormous, unrelenting social pressure? A crying child telling you that they're completely cut off from their peers and social group? Day after day of arguments and pleading? Schools and scout groups and extra-curriculars that tacitly require your child to have a Facebook or WhatsApp account? And much much more! | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | tokamak-teapot 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
It sounds like you're assuming a few things: 1. Where you've written "smartphone", you're using this as a proxy for social media, which is what this legislation purports to target. 2. aledevv is a parent. 3. aledevv has, for whatever reason, not withheld access to social media (I'm taking "smartphone" as a proxy for "social media") for their child. 4. What aledevv said they agree with is state-level restrictions on social media for children. Please correct me if any of the above is a misunderstanding. If the above are representative, then what I believe you've overlooked here is a the much more difficult issue: Parents have power over children, at least up to a point, and many platforms provide help with exercising that power. Apple and Google provide some means to restrict social media access which place control in the hands of parents. Parents do not, normally, have power over other people's children. Parents can influence in-person social circles, somewhat, but without withdrawing children from all situations where they interact with other children, including school, social media's influence upon a parent's children is still very strong via the indirect route. When a child goes to school, attends a group activity outside of school, or socialises in real life with friends outside of school, there are always children in the groups they meet who either use social media themselves or have older siblings, friends or parents who use social media themselves and who influence those children themselves. To be clear, I'm not giving any opinion about what's proposed here by the UK government. I wanted only to object to what looks like an oversimplification that makes a false assumption that parents have a level of control and influence that they really don't. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | postexitus 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Same argument goes for cigarette and alcohol. Withholding access to them is a decision a parent can make. Are you for allowing children to purchase them? | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | adityamwagh 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
They will want a smartphone if their friends have it. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | zombot 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
You don't have children, do you? Being a know-it-all in an area you know nothing about. Denying a phone to one child is to isolate them among their peers. Denying it to all makes them equal again. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | n4r9 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Maybe they are already doing it. But they're allowed to want the same for others too. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Aardwolf 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Maybe they can't make real friends if all the others are engulfed in social media | |||||||||||||||||||||||