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twoodfin 9 hours ago

What do you mean “extracted”? The wealth is sitting there in his 401(k) being risked through (highly) fractional ownership of various publicly traded business ventures.

saghm 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean "not earned through work", as evidenced by your description of it "as as sitting there". Risk isn't the same as work.

twoodfin 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What is being “extracted” from what?

I described it as “sitting there” to contrast my viewpoint that in fact it’s not being “extracted” from anything as far as I can tell.

inigyou 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Some Nvidia employees are making graphics cards, that cost $1000, and use $300 of materials, and being paid $200. $500 is being extracted from the value chain at that point and some of that is going to you because you own Nvidia stock.

twoodfin 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah, the labor theory of value. That makes sense.

It’s totally incoherent and unreliable as an explanation for an economy, but it explains the comments in this thread.

inigyou 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Did you reply to the wrong comment by mistake?

twoodfin an hour ago | parent [-]

What would that $500 not being “extracted from the value chain” look like?

inigyou an hour ago | parent [-]

It would either be passed along the chain or it would not enter the chain.

zarathustreal 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you think “work” means literally “manual labor”?

thrance 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Work implies the creation of value: physical artifacts, services, or more generally, stuff that adds to the world. Capital gails isn't work, you're getting money without adding anything to the world.

well_ackshually 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Work means the creation of things. Clicking on stocks for your 401k is not working.

zarathustreal 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The counter-examples are so obvious it makes me feel that pointing them out wouldn’t actually help you understand reality