With deluge of Chinese models popping up recently, I believe there's a few issues one needs to evaluate before deciding to use these models:

- Ethics. As known, ou American frontier AI companies are incredibly ethical. And I have yet to see any interviews or blog posts by Chinese companies where they talk about how they are ethical, or at least credible HN comments about it.

- Safety. Do they covertly sabotage or at least refuse to answer questions that could help cyber- and bioterrorists in their nefarious purposes? What about ML-related questions that could help terrorists create AI models without guardrails?

- Child safety. This is especially important with "free for all" open-weight models, most of which are Chinese (ever think about why that's the case?). How are we going to do age verification and KYC with models that anyone can just download on their computer?

- Intellectual property theft. How can we be sure that no output of our American frontier AI models was used while training these Chinese models?

Frankly, there's a plethora of other issues I don't have time to get into right now. Personally, I believe distribution of Chinese models in the US should be paused until they are required to submit models to the government for review and evaluation, to make sure they are made to Anthropic/OpenAI standards.

We need legal grounds for that.

Write to your congressman, congresswoman or congressperson and urge them to stop proliferation of dangerous non-American intelligence. This is a matter of national security and needs to be acted upon as soon as possible, preferably before IPO.

The funniest thing about this post is not the fact that some people took it as anything but satire, but that it’s likely very close to what the true believers at Antrophic actually think.

Ah, those wacky terrorists and their non-aligned models, trained on copyrighted data to boot. Remember, the only thing that stops a guy with an evil god-in-a-box is a guy with a benevolent god-in-a-box, and only Antrophic can lead us to the second one – but only if we act together as a nation and ban those subversive open weights models!

So hard to tell what is satire and what isn't these days.

The solution is tarrifs. Require 3 american tokens for every imported chinese token

Dario you're logged into the wrong account

I used to buy only American Ethics, but Chinese Ethics are becoming pretty good lately for the fraction of the price.

Yes, please ban all Chinese models in the US and stick to your US-centric stuff. Good for the rest of the world.

This is great but sails far too close to Poe's Law that I predict downvotes.

_incredibly ethical_

What is Amodei doing on HN astroturfing instead of trying to get Fable back online smh

Chinese models are the closest shining example of their ideological system working for the world than anything else they've ever done

From my perspective

Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, the terrormongering, is worse than the terrors. Endless denial of society & possibility & progress: begone you demons.

Is this a parody of the Chinese-funded anti-datacenter astroturfing?

Is this comical satire or what? I am surprised to see such a dillusional reply. Come on. Intellectual property theft and openai rings a bell? Ethics? Ever tried uncensored versions of gemma4? LLMs have no bad or good etics. Etics are a thin layer on top. Always. You must be joking.

> our American frontier AI companies are incredibly ethical

Ah... sweet summer child.

> Intellectual property theft. How can we be sure that no output of our American frontier AI models was used while training these Chinese models?

The US AI models are already using pirated copyrighted material off the Internet. If Chinese models also do this, they're at least giving it back to the people by releasing their weights as open source.