Can't help laughing at a random ad hominem against John Carmack of all people, and about his opinion on a guy who is already widely regarded as an especially talented programmer.

I don't think that's fair. There's a lot of talent and grit behind ffmpeg. But for better or worse, getting the code to do what it's supposed to do requires a different mindset than getting it to not do anything else (i.e., to handle malicious inputs correctly).

The developers of ffmpeg are very good at the first thing and not very good at the second. But few people on this planet, if instructed to write a complex video format parser in C or assembly, can produce something that's secure on the first try. The main failing of the ffmpeg team is that they should have spent more time on architectural hardening and mitigations. Most other large projects of this type do.

So who is someone who's opinion is worth anything to you?

Except yourself, presumably, to me it almost seems nobody is perfect.

I'm glad to see their sense of humour :-)

https://nitter.net/ffmpeg/status/2039115531744334180

In their defense, the "rewrite it in rust" crowd can be really grating.

Oh my god! They are so funny and memeable! gets RCE'd

Apr Fools Day really is the shittiest day to be online. For one thing, practical jokes/pranks are just gussied-up asshole behavior. For another thing, nerds generally SUCK at information-delivery pranks, which is what the Internet is full of on Apr 1.

I don't have an example, but I know the pattern. You are working on your software, security researcher finds a bug, it's in your project, for you it's just another bug, but for them it's a point on their CV, so they make a theater about it, and expect priority in dealing with it. It must get tiring if you get many of these.

I have numerous examples of security researchers being hostile and impossible to work with (but cannot share them unfortunately).

I guess that the perceived problem from a security perspective is that they're there, not that they're necessarily hard to fix once found.

That's not really true. Ffmpeg is a Swiss army knife for anything related to digital multimedia (old and new). It is broken into a few libraries but doesn't really have plugins.

Gstreamer has a different model, chaining together plugins. Lots of overlap, but I think Gstreamer only has real traction because some silicon vendors use it.

GStreamer doesn’t use ffmpeg’s pipeline at all. It implements a much more advanced directed graph with disconnect, connection and pad negotiation. You can dynamically swap out the entire filter graph during live playback with zero disruption. Swap feeds, outputs, effects… all at runtime.

ffmpeg and other media frameworks (Windows Media Foundation, Apple’s AVFramwork) only support static pipelines. You can use “switcher” components but the inputs are still static.

GStreamer is extremely special. The only thing that comes close was Microsoft’s DirectShow, which has since been replaced with Media Foundation which can’t do it. And while DirectShow did support it, it was fragile because many 3rd party filters did not support dynamic configuration.

GStreamer does use ffmpeg, but it just wraps the core encoder/decoder/filter code and discards the streams/graph/pipe part of ffmpeg.

Usually it's Rewrite it in Rust, but both work I guess

I think Chromium already does sandbox ffmpeg in the renderer process because of their "Rule of Two": https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/s...

Thus:

1. Code which processes untrusted input

2. Code written in unsafe languages like C or C++

3. Code that runs without a sandbox

So ffmpeg should be sandboxed, same as the network code and GPU process are sandboxed.

> AI slop is a real problem and annoying. Just because it exists does not mean every vulnerability report is AI slop.

Ok but who is going to sift through it all to triage the good bits when you're working on something for free?

> Ffmpeg devs are free not to care, but then they cant complain when they start to get a bad reputation

Who gives a shit about reputation when you're the only game in town?

There is nothing out there that even attempts to approximate an ffmpeg clone. They are the Swiss army knife of media encoding and all complainers have produced are plastic sporks.